Does Floyd's ability as a trainer take a hit?

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  1. AceNguyen

    AceNguyen Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd turned his son into the most fundamentally sound boxer of his generation, you can't say that he doesn't know what to teach. He just never had enough time with Hatton and got with him too late in his career.
     
  2. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Probably, but not rightly.

    His ability is certainly not hit. He's not become a worse trainer because Ricky Hatton is untrainable. His pride and reputation maybe, for some people, but if you take a look at the circumstances I'd say no.
     
  3. D_XZ

    D_XZ Member Full Member

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    I think Floyd is an adequate, not great, trainer but it's not fair to judge him on this one as Hatton abandoned everything he was taught.

    Didn't some jounalists comment on how they'd seen Ricky work on several things when training for the Floyd junior fight that he just didn't do in the fight?

    I doubt Hatton would be any different even if Roach took him under his wing.
     
  4. Rebel-INS

    Rebel-INS Mighty Healthy Full Member

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    Pretty much what I was getting at :good
     
  5. Dagger

    Dagger New Member Full Member

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    A trainer should be judged not just by what goes on in the fight, but also in the entire traning camp and build up. A great trainer is not just a great tactician (which Floyd may or may not be), but is also someone who tries to build a good relationship with his fighter. By those criteria Floyd's reputation took a huge hit (and for good reason). He was late to training sessions, critical in interviews, and to top it off disgracefully washed his hands of ricky the moment the fight ended.
    Even if his (disputed) tactical brilliance were on a par with Freddie Roach, his glaring weaknesses in other areas leave him light years behind Roach trainer-wise.
     
  6. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    “We studied tapes — it’s right in front of you, all you do is watch,” said Freddie Roach, Pacquiao’s trainer, whose prediction of a win for his man inside three rounds had been widely scoffed at. “Every time Hatton throws, he pulls back. A guy like Pacquiao can deliver a short hook inside.
    “He never saw it coming. He was caught by the same punch over and over again because he couldn’t make the adjustment — he’s been doing it for 50 fights and nobody has taught him not to do it. It has taken Manny eight years with me to get to this point. What can Floyd [Mayweather Sr, Hatton's trainer] do in two fights?”
     
  7. 9Ball

    9Ball Smeghead Full Member

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    When Hatton comfortably beat Maliggnagi it looked like Floyd had started to make a real difference to Hatton but as soon as he got in the ring (and maybe even well before then) with Manny he knew that he was out of his depth again as he was with Little Floyd, so he inexplicably went back to his bad old ways. If he'd have tried to box clever as he did with Maliggnagi he could have taken the fight to the later rounds when he would have stood a much better chance of making an impact.
    In my opinion Hatton is the only one to blame for this crushing defeat.
    Nothing to do with the trainer.
     
  8. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    He is a better trainer than Freddie Roach that is for sure and Roach knows it also. Big Floyd never made Little Floyd that is just the crap he tries to potray. Uncle Roger Mayweather has always had the ability to train fighters. Even when he was fighting you would see him helping out the likes of that great trainer Miguel Diaz when he was training my late friend Kid Akeem Anifowoshe and the like. He made Floyd the complete fighter that he is today.