Where do you put Joe Calzaghe among the all time greats?

Behind them.

 

Nowhere near them.

 

Or that one :hi:

 

With the top 168lbs of all-time.
Good enough for me.

 

il be surprised if anyone even remembers calzhage in 3 years time. Nowhere near a Great.

 

He's one of them.

 

No Bernard Hopkins and certainly no Joe Louis. He breaks the top 100, barely.

 

I don't.

 

I put him in the upper HOF level, but just shy of ATG level. Head to head, he matches up with anyone at 168, but he just needed a few more big fights to cement himself as a solid ATG. His resume, though I feel it gets **** on too much, doesn't match up with what he could've accomplished- he left some good wins on the table.

A hell of a career and fighter, regardless. Pretty crazy to think he fought the style he did, took his fair share of shots, and never suffered a broken nose.

 

168. top 5

All time? like 49 or something.

 

WTF? :-( atsch :nut :rofl

 

The ironic thing is that Hopkins wins resume isn't discernably better than Calzaghe's in quality, but it in name recognition. As it stands, I don't rate it much higher because most of his big fights involved him having the weight advantage and having his opponent move up (a real trailblazer for Mayweather), and he lost to the 2 best H2H fighters he fought. Whenhe finally fought Calzaghe, for example, Calzaghe came up in weight, went to Hopkins back yard with Hopkins' ref, and still won. Hopkins scores his points for longevity and for stepping up his competition in the twilight of his career.

 

right, calzaghe was so shot kessler is still undefeated.

 

Fail.