Here's a video of me doing heavybag work, comments welcome

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by boxingwizard, May 6, 2009.


  1. jshiNe

    jshiNe New Member Full Member

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    we all gotta start somewhere man, don't get discouraged. but you definitely need to slow things down. the key thing is basics! because if you don't have a strong foundation, you fall apart in the ring. you have the speed, so focus on the basics. but the best way to learn is in the gym. but you want to help, take videos on set things. such as, just your stance, your footwork, your jab, your jab cross. etc. this way we can help you on those individuals things.
    and a haircut wouldn't hurt. jk!
     
  2. spittle8

    spittle8 Dropping Fisticuffs Full Member

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    I was in your boat. I probably looked like that when I got a chance to punch **** before I started training. Here's the thing: if you spar right now you will be mauled. It's very simple. You have no technique. You drop your hands like you're expecting a crotch shot after every damned punch! How are you going to block the counter right?! You drop your left after the jab! THIS IS A MISTAKE! Your guard is way too low, you're not Roy Jones. I know it feels good, but I had my guard low sparring and it got me in trouble. I had a real actual fight after a month of training, with a guy of 5 years experience no less and you know what? I survived three rounds because I kept my hands high. Everytime I dropped my guard I started losing the fight. Keep your ****ing hands high, brother.

    About the jab. Keep your left hand bent, elbow in and leading away from you, like you've already started the punch, but don't overextend. Keep your fist eye-level at all times. Punch at your head, never lower. Always jab high. Snap the jab forward, keep it loose but snap it FAST. Don't just throw it fast, but pull it back as fast as you can to protect your BRAIN. MAJOR LESSON HERE! Also, have your fist so that your palm faces rightwards and rotate your fist as you throw any punch, so that it lands your palm is facing the ground.

    Keep your right elbow tucked in by your sides and right fist under your chin, in fact make it touch your chin. Keep your chin tucked by your neck. Throw the right cross straight -- turn into it with but be fast and snap, don't wind up. Again, rotate the fist, and come back quick.

    Don't worry about uppercuts, hooks or any of that. Only throw jabs and crosses. NOTHING ELSE! You will **** YOURSELF UP if you focus on other **** too soon. I've been training 1.5 months and my coach trained 5 world champions, I am telling you what he taught me so listen good.

    Keep 3/4 of your weight on the back foot, the right foot. Always keep that right load-bearing foot behind you, except when you're leaning on a guy or throwing hooks, but don't worry about that yet. When you jab, step forward, with your weight pushing off that back foot. DON'T DRAG THE BACK FOOT! It steps, too! But don't lean forward, the weight is on the back. I know this feels ****ing weird but just do it. This will give weight to your jab and make it heavy. Walk with your weight behind your jab.

    Stop going so fast and just get the fundamentals right. Do them over and over and over until they're muscle memory and then worry about other stuff. But most of all, get yourself a trainer my good man! That's the only way...

    Cheers brother.
     
  3. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    the basic punch is the left jab.
    you didn't seem to hitting with the knuckle,and you weren't putting your shoulder behind it.
    if you joined a gym,and you should ,they'd start you off with this punch and then it woudn't feel so odd when you lead with the jab.
     
  4. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    mate probs for posting it

    look calm down your far too jumpy your going at 100 mph just slow it down focus on technique and stylke.

    Get to a gym to learn these things. As you have good natural ability as you look quite fast

    all the best mate though
     
  5. avk47

    avk47 King Full Member

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    I know you can't get to a gym right now, which is why you need to avoid throwing combinations, because they aren't combinations. The key is to sort out your stance, then learn how to jab, and then move from there. Ideally, the first bit of time in boxing you would be sorting out your stance and learning to move around. You can't really do this on your own as you do not see yourself or have the experience to correct your mistakes. Is there somebody with at least a bit of amateur boxing experience who can just watch you as you practice the stance?

    Because in boxing, all punches come from the stance, from the defensive position of your hands and from your footwork. I can just say, what the hell, play around until you find a gym, but the problem is that bad habits are tough to unlearn. You are doing pretty much everything wrong at this stage (no offense) and will have issues when you do get to a gym and you would have hard-wired your body for those types of movements, and it will actually take you longer to where you want to be.

    In terms of bag work, at this stage all I would do is move around the bag, making sure your foot position is right and you don't cross em over, your hands are up and your chin is down, throwing single jabs, and making sure the jab is coming from your guard and your still in good stance every time you do it. Do not go in there trying to double up on your jabs before you can do this. Post up a video of you doing the basics, and it would be more useful criticism.
     
  6. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    Perhaps the instructional video's sticky thread is a good place to start.

    [url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107787[/url]

    If the links don't work just search for don hamilton for instance on youtube or check this channel:
    [url]http://www.youtube.com/user/billiardjay[/url]
     
  7. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Erm... Get to a gym... All the best but it does not look like boxing is for you. That video was hilarious and I'm not terribly sure you were been serious but either way you need a serious amount of discipline
     
  8. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    look dont listern to this guy

    you have balls posting the video and you are obvously determined man

    keep it up

    not having a go hands of stone just thought it was out of order we all start somewhere
     
  9. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ignore the assholes giving you grief dude, they're just wankers.
    Like others have said get to a gym.
    Where I differ from some is when I think sparring right away is good, but only if the guy you spar is experienced. You'll soon realise how much dedication and effort it takes to get to a reasonable level and you won't get ktfo in the process.

    Good luck.
     
  10. micro

    micro Mean left hook Full Member

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    Where to even begin
    This has to be a troll job
     
  11. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    First, step farther away from the bag. Okay, now you need to fully extend your punches and not drop your hands. After each punch you should bring your hand right back to your face.

    Your hands are only as good as your legs, so work on stepping into the punches.
     
  12. boxingwizard

    boxingwizard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thanks for all the advice, I've been thinking I'm better than I was and that I could live off my handspeed and that I was more advanced than I was. I'm glad I posted this video because it was a wake-up call. Today I worked on sitting down on my punches and mainly the jab, I can tell when I'm putting power behind my jabs because A. my elbow area tends to get the blunt force after I jab B. My wrist and hands are a lot more sore than ever before, I worked a few rounds on the jab, bringing the jab back to my face as soon as I throw it and occasional right hands, I'm slowing everything down and trying to be patient and work so I can get to the point to where my basics are perfect and I can go from there. Having no trainer or gym is unfortunate, but if I have an option of it I'm willing to pay and learn I'm already dedicated and humble and ready to get better.
     
  13. SouthpawSlayer

    SouthpawSlayer Im coming for you Full Member

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    wizard dont listen to all the these ****ers man, we all have to start somewhere and a lot of people would have jacked it after reading some of the comments people wrote on here, you have the motivation to succeed and become better which imo is the number 1 in trying to teach someone

    your comments in this thread really gives me respect for you and i it re-enforces why i love boxing so much, i teach the younger boxers at a gym i train at regularly and will give you my advise on how you can improve

    as you said the comments were real wake up calls and you will experience these so called wake up calls for the rest of your time in boxing, these wake up calls or eye openers is what gives us the motivation and are essential, the best thing to do is use them to your advantage and not let them discourage you

    ok wizard first off, id advise you to get some gasoline ala roger mayweather and set that everlast thing you have a light, they are utterly useless

    get yourself a nice medium sized bag and hang it up somewhere safe, that everlast thing was so low you were throwing your shots from your chest, this is terrible man and teriible practise just means you have to correct that ****, throwing your shots from your chest means you will constantly be open to shots and you would not last pissing time in the ring, even with a novice of 4 fights

    wizard try pracising your footwork with a nice high held guard without throwing shots, by a high held guard i dont mean chin level i want both knuckles touching the top of your forehead, now practise moving around right and left forward and back without crossing feet, i would advise your practise this for at least a week

    now learning how to throw punches properly will be hard for you as you have no coach, id advise shadow boxing and learning to bring your hands back to your forehead straight away, again you should practise this religously,

    only then should you move onto bag work, you need to bring what you learn from that and incorporate it into bag work without bringing your old habits with you, again this will be hard

    as bad as what i saw on the vid wizard, you should always take the positives out of everything, i have been battered by decent pro's in sparring only to drive home with a big smile on my face as i take the positives out of everything

    your positives are your attiitude and your hand speed, for a guy who has done **** all training and with no proper guidance you obvioulsy have natural han speed which if you do decide to stay at this sport will be a great thing to have
     
  14. beecho1988

    beecho1988 Well-Known Member Full Member

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  15. FM3O

    FM3O Member Full Member

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    Unless you are planning on boxing midgets, you are going to need a heavy bag so you can punch at least as high as your own head. throwing combows as high as your waist won't get you far. On a more serious note, you should really try and find a trainer and a gym so you can have someone point you in the right direction. Good luck man!