I haven't been on the forum for a while so I don't really know what the vibe is as far as Floyd's fight against Marquez. Personally, I think Floyd is just doing good business and not really risking anything here while more formidable challenges are out there. In other words, real welterweights like Cotto and Mosley. The past few years has seen the emergence of this p4p circuit that consists of Mayweather, De La Hoya, Pacman, and Hatton. De La Hoya was in there because of his name only as he had been on the slide. Hatton had been in there because of his drawing power and the fact that people actually believed that he was a special fighter despite there being nothing after the Tszyu fight suggesting that this was true other than a stoppage of a spent Castillo. So Pacman and Floyd get victories in the same sequence over DLH and Hatton. The difference is that Pacman made a serious jump in weight to win his fights (not to mention the fact that he roughed up both guys and stopped them) whereas Floyd had been fighting between around 140 since early 2004 and had spent the last few years of his "retirement" sidestepping guys like Cotto, Margarito (before we found out that his gloves were loaded), and perhaps Williams. So I'd like to know why Mayweather gets let off the hook for more careful matchmaking under the guise of a big fight? Yeah, I know the p4p element is there but what does that really mean? Why isn't Mayweather taking a tune-up fight and fighting a Shane Mosley? You gonna tell me that there's no money in that? I have always been a Floyd Mayweather fan but he did his best work years ago. Since then, he has become a show fighter and even worse, he's created this bad guy alter-ego, which I have always said seemed desperately forced. It took me a while to accept this about Floyd but I pretty much figured it out around the time he fought Zab Judah. It's as though we were just supposed to forget that Judah had just lost to Carlos Baldomir a few months before. Once again, another PPV I will not be buying.
My writing may be a bit unclear. I meant that Mayweather should take a tune-up fight and THEN face a guy like Mosley. What does Margarito have to do with this anyway?
Maybe i didnt understand, but moselys no ones tuneup. Im just saying Margacheato thought he was a tune up and got ko'd. Mr. brick hands has nothing to do with this...your right.
Yeah, the way I originally wrote it made it seem as though I was saying he should come back and fight Mosley as a tune-up. I meant a tune-up against somebody else. Mosley is nobody's tune-up as you have already pointed out.
With all that being said i do hope floyd fights pac, shane, and cotto. He needs to handle JMM first. And cotto still needs to beat clottey!
all ill say is this pbf has a hitlist which has jmm, pac, mosley, & cotto. what will be said if and when he beats them all?
He is more than capable of beating all of those guys. If it happens most people will say what I am saying right now. He should fight the guy who is stylistically the worst one out there for him... PW
Please stop bring up Paul Williams - he is no longer a Welterweight. Even if he tried to come back and fight Floyd - he would kill himself trying to make weight. Imagine the same PW that fought the first Quintana fight - against Floyd - cause that exactly what you'll get. The fight wouldn't even be close and there would be no rematch. Mosley poses the biggest challenge as of this moment - but PacMan bring the most money. With that being say - whom would you fight? JMM is the appetizer - PacMan is the Main Course - Mosley is dessert - Cotto will be a night time snack.
Yep you're right Mosley was the main man he shoulda been gunning for .Maybe he's waiting for Shane to be forty.P4p doesn't mean that he's the best fight for you regardless of weight.And if weight didn't matter to him he would have called out Hops a few years ago when they were 1 and 2.
Cruiser 1...Floyd gets too much **** off people like you. Mosely and Cotto need to fight to determine who the hell is the best in the WW division because at the moment you have Mosely rated as the best but he got beat by Cotto so no-one is really sure of the top dog. Mosely is 37 yrs old and has lost 5 times and apart from his win over the extremely overrated Margarito hadn't done anything impressive against an elite fighter since his "close" win over De La Hoya, and well that should of been a loss. Mosely is a great fighter but gets way too much credit, the guy has lost 5 times to much lesser fighters to PBF. Cotto just fought Michael Jennings and is in a tough fight with Clottey so how the hell could PBF face him?? Cotto needs to establish himself again before he deserves a match with PBF!!
Mayweather's approach is to let the real welterweights fight each other and eliminate each other while he fights carefully picked opponents. Cotto OR Mosley would be good opponents for Floyd but you know as well as I do that he wants no part of either of them. I said that I was always a fan of Floyd and that's true. I just call things as I see them. I don't let my bias get in the way. Case in point, Evander Holyfield is my favorite fighter ever and all he does now is **** me off with his Quixotic quest to retire undipsuted champ. I can't even listen to the guy talk anymore cuz he's delusional. Mike Tyson is my 2nd favorite and I have as much criticism for him as I do praise. I'm nobody's pundit but I'm not some follower who doesn't question things. I respect all fighters and their styles. Boxers, sluggers, punchers, etc. I just happen to have more respect for the guys who say they want the best and actually go through with fighting them.
Floyd is genius, like a sniper waitiing for the right moment then, bam he makes his move. Cotto, although maybe illegally, was beaten down big time, and faces a big challenge himself. Mosley, though brilliant against a busted and worried Marg., is old, old, old. Williams is not a welter (will he ever be again?) is not that marketable and may come in looking like Coralles did back when he fought Mayweater, then there's Clottey who is tied up with Cotto. Floyd is basically letting the welters take care of each other, then he'll eat the leftovers if there are any. A year ago he was sitting back watching the welterweight round robin tourney and it's just about over. In the meantime JMM is a fomridable opponent, but he seems to have seen better days either from age, moving up to lightweight, or both. Now JMM is moving up 2 more classes!!! Floyd is going to make a bundle off this fight with less risk than going against the top welters now. Floyd should beat Marquez and that will set him up with the huge payday with Pac. Then the Welters
i think marquez is a pretty damn good tune up fight (toughest opponent i can think of for a tune up in recent memory) and then if he fights and beats pac i bet he will fight mosley or whoever is the top dog at welterweight at that point.
Cotto and Mosley has been there for ages but no PBF fight with them. Even prior to the Margarito gloves incident there was no interest for pbf to fight anyone of them. TOOOOOO DAMN RISKY FOR PBF! YES, he fought Hatton but NOT on HATTON's turf at 140. He fought HATTON on PBF's turf which is at 147lbs.. againd TOOOO DAMN RISKY!!!