Baldomir Deserved the Decision over Mayweather

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  1. Danny Ocean

    Danny Ocean My nAmE IS MoNeY Full Member

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    please

    you have just been owned arguments wise and offer no comeback except for a fake ****in laugh
     
  2. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    You joined this forum a week ago.

    If you were around any length of time, you would be aware that PBF is NOT one of my favourite fighters (For reasons too numerous to go into here. Go do your homework if you want to know more).

    I was accused by the Floyd fanatics on here of being an Oscar nuthugger.

    I'm a reasonably objective fan of the sport.

    My biases might be towards my favourite fighters
    (see http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=363365#post363365)

    You, on the other hand, are a Floyd-hater.And that makes you just as deluded as the Floyd fanatics ( or the Oscar haters or Oscar fanatics or Taylor haters or Klitschko haters or Pac fanatics or whatever.)

    As I've pointed out, Floyd totally and utterly dominated Carlos. It matters not one whit that other boxers in the past have been dominated to a greater degree than Baldomir was in this fight. This fight was still a total domination of one boxer by another.

    I prefer Pacman's fights to Floyd's as they are usually more exciting and while neither dude is on my favourite ten list, Pacman makes my favourite twelve.
     
  3. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dominating has little to do with excitement. Many of Jones fights were boring....but dominant performances.
     
  4. MrMagic

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  5. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

    You got excuses for everything.
     
  6. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't care how you spin it Dominga. Learn what dominating means. Domination in ANY sporting even can be quite boring.

    And alot of people didn't even show up to Jones fights because they knew they would be boring.
     
  7. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Really? Show me. Show an excuse I gave. I gave you punch stats. All you have are excuses, and the inability to admit you are ever wrong.
     
  8. GARCIA

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    No he didn't. Floyd won.

    He may have showed alot of heart and WANTED it more..........but the points Floyd racked up were above and beyond anything Baldomir could dish out.

    Much like DLH-Trinidad. Only Oscar lost, not Tito.
     
  9. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    You were doing fine to your last sentence.

    Floyd win with a near shutout of Baldo.

    According to the judges Oscar lost to Tito, but that decision was a lot more controversial with the majority of observers believing that Tito was taken to school.
     
  10. GARCIA

    GARCIA New Member Full Member

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    Wrong example i guess. :(
     
  11. Still~style

    Still~style Active Member Full Member

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    this is why the internet can be bad. people get info from ridiculous sources. some of which are hired by large corps.
     
  12. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    See, you couldn't do it. I said show me an excuse I made for PBF fights. You couldn't.

    And then on top of that, you mix and match things and conveniently omit statements I made so that you can try and make an argument. Pathetic.

    Yes, Morales was old and Solis has done nothing and Larios was coming off a loss and moving up 2 weight classes. Outside the first thing, the other 2 are facts. Pacman still put on dominating performances.

    PBF dominated Baldomir plain and simple. Baldomir was NOT the best fighter in the division and had no chance at beating PBF. He was a high level journeyman who finally got a good break and held the lineal title PBF wanted. But PBF still dominated him.

    Domination has nothing to do with those things. The other things I mentioned are just the context in which the fights took place.

    You just aren't that bright, or are being pigheaded. Plain and simple. Dominating a fight has nothing to do how good the fighter is you're fighting or how exciting it is.
     
  13. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And here is where this ignorant statement falls apart.

    Dream Team was dominating. And they were exciting. The Spur are dominating. And boring.

    Excitement has nothing to do with dominating. You can be both exciting and boring, and be dominant EITHER way. The 2000 Ravens were dominant. And boring cuz they were a defensive team. Style makes you exciting, but domination has to do with how GOOD you are. You can be exciting and LOSE you know.
     
  14. bigtime9

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    so now you determine who the best fighter is in every weight class:rofl baldo beat the undisputed welterweight champ in judah, that means sherlock there was no question judah was the best at 147:deal if baldo beat the best fighter at 147 in judah how the **** can you turn around and say he wasn't the best welterweight when he beat the consensus best. it damn sure wasn't cotto or mosley who weren't even at welterweight yet:rofl

    in order to be the best you have to beat the best.
     
  15. bigtime9

    bigtime9 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    if you say baldo beat the best then give him his props. how can baldo not be the best fighter at 147 during that period and not fight and beat the top guy, then follow that up with a title defense. H ecould have an argument right now but 1 year ago baldo was the best at 147. floyd beat him and proved he was better, a very simple formula. fighters fight to win at least championship level fighters do.

    by the way I don't here kg saying hatton is not the best at 140 after beating zoo, why would he reserve that bias for baldo. is it because floyd handled him easily. well guess what floyd handles 95% of his comp easily.