The Wlad-Haye-Valuev-Chagaev Mess has separated the men from the boys...

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    i would say Wlad and Chag are #2 and #3.

    i know i'm not the only one who thinks Vitali is better than Wlad, but i don't think anyone believes that Chagaev is better than Vitali
     
    PH|LLA, Jun 6, 2009
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  2. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Who you think is better doesn't have a damn thing to do with where they should be ranked. Ranking Vitali above Wlad considering their accomplishments solid proof of ******ation.
     
    WiDDoW_MaKeR, Jun 6, 2009
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  3. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    I am not insulting Arreola. What I am saying is that this is going to be a mega fight to establish the champion. After that, should Wlad win (I think he will) he is going to have to deal with Povetkin and the winner of Chambers-Dimentrenko. Arreola has a chance which, regardless of how legitimate the reason, he did not take, and now, eralistically, he has been removed from the picture until at least the middle of next year.
     
    Cachibatches, Jun 6, 2009
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  4. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I believe the winner of this fight will be Super Champ and Valuev "Regular".
     
    jisi, Jun 6, 2009
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  5. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    AS covered in the initial post, Vitaly beat a guy for a belt that his brother beat years ago. It makes no sense what-so-ever to give Vitaly a claim to the real belt.

    i like Viatly, and I thinkt hat the Gomez fight was a hell of a win, but there is no case to be made that Vitaly is the champ.

    As for Vitaly being #2, you can argue that, sure, but he is vacating that spot by not fighting his brother. I understand that brothers don't want to fight, but the diviison marches on.

    Wlad and Chag have earned the right to be where they are by being the guys who cleaned out the division. This is the right fight.
     
    Cachibatches, Jun 6, 2009
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  6. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Doesn't really matter, does it? He doesn't train for his scheduled fights either, as witnessed by his disgusting shape.

    Still, a wise move for them not to take the fight. Better for them to wait a few years when Wlad gets older, and by some means, they get Arreola in shape to go a strong 12 rounds.
     
    ChrisPontius, Jun 6, 2009
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  7. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    In as much as people refer to bowel movements as regular? Yeah, then I agree.:D
     
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