Look into your crystal ball: the heavyweight picture five years from now.

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  1. ya-ni

    ya-ni Active Member Full Member

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    In five years, wlad will still be champ, an sence he fights 3 fights a year, an his mandatorys, he will still be the undisputed champ
     
  2. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Comparing him to experienced is irrelevant. He has never laced up a pair of gloves before 2005. He goes on to win a bronze medal which is amazing considering his inexperience. Comparing him to the Klitshcko is about the stupidest thing I have ever read. What do you expect? Wlad is the best in the world and Wilder has 6 pro fights. Povetkin beats him now because of his experience.

    We'll see in a few years though. Sadly, I would all ready pick Wilder over Valuev. That's how bad Valuev is.
     
  3. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's inexperienced since he's only started Boxing at 19. He's got some flaws that are fixable( Is that a word?). Wilder has big power and stands at 6'7" weighing in at a trim and muscular 220lbs. He also has great handspeed.
     
  4. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ill try and check him out:good
     
  5. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    It immediately shows the lack of depth even at amateur level that a guy with two years in the sport rose up to become their pick for the olympics.

    Yeah, good achievement gaining bronze, but 2008 was hardly a big year for HW/SHW boxing in the olympics.
     
  6. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Let's not give the guy credit at all........
     
  7. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Vlad can continue to fight until he is 40, perhaps beyond that. I think he will retire before 40 though. He should fight as often as possible because he has the rest of his life to retire, only a few years more to fight.
     
  8. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    I don't give Deontay credit because I see huge flaws in his style that he won't fix unless he spends 10 years learning the craft. The fact that he went pro after one olympics leads me to believe he's not willing to learn the craft.

    You don't learn the craft in the pro ranks, you polish the craft.
     
  9. ya-ni

    ya-ni Active Member Full Member

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    Agree completley,,,,,,with his boxing skills, i think he can control the division till he is 40, an to retire like that would be hard press for anybody to debate were he stands among the best,,i mean that is 7 years, 20+ fights an defenses from now, beating joe louis 25 defense record. That is the type of goal that can motive a fighter, imagine how many KO's, impressive
     
  10. aceshigh

    aceshigh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I see a bunch of Fat guys.

    & the Tua fight will still not have happened.
     
  11. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes, Vitali and Vlad both keep in shape and that is a very important key. Hopkins stays is shape and has been able to fight well into his forties.
     
  12. konaman

    konaman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Vitali will retire about 2 years from now after running out of people to fight/interfering too much with Wlad's work and Wlad will retire roughly at the end of the five year time frame (probably still as 'the man'). I don't think Haye will be in the picture at that point, he might do well for a while but will get knocked out in brutal fashion at some point, longevity won't be his strong point.
     
  13. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    +1 Although it won't be undisputed. He might have one belt. The guy isn't very much known so I don't understand the hate about hype. I think he shows tremendous potential and although is a bit green definitely seems promising. He's big, can hit, and seems to keep in great shape. Weirdly reminds me of a bigger Paul Williams... imagine that in the HW division.

    But I like him. Really needs to work on a lot of things, most importantly footwork/balance but give him a bit more time.
     
  14. Farmboxer

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    Vitali or Vlad would knock Wilder out easily. Tyson Fury would knock him out. Dimitrenko. Boytsov. Valouev, Chagaev, you name it.
     
  15. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder has the tools to get it done. Power with a lethal right, good hand speed, foot speed, in shape and everything you want athletically. The questions with Wilder revert back to his inexperience and his mentality for the fight business. If Wilder's work ethic and ring IQ are half as good as his physical skills, he's going to go far in the division. If the total package comes together, he could be a world champ.

    Outside of Wilder, you got prospects like Elijah McCall, Tor Hamer, Odliander Solis, Dennis Boystov, Tyson Fury, Mike Perez (a cuban heavy fighting out of Ireland), Kevin Johnson and Alexander Ustinov to name a few.

    Five years from now I figure those guys will either be at the door step or slowly on their way through the door but Wlad will still be on top. Haye will either be a legit force in the division or back in CW after getting owned. Valuev and Ruiz will still be palling around with the WBA title and I THINK Arreola will have his hand on the WBC title.