Who has the Best Resume Ever?

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  1. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, I think De La Hoya has the best resume in recent times. Pacquiao, if he continues on like he is, could surpass it.
     
  2. Cruiser1

    Cruiser1 Champion Emeritus Full Member

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    Holyfield's resume is pretty tough to beat. Throw in the fact that he should have gotten the decision against Valuev and he'd have been a champ in 3 different decades. This from a guy who was a blown-up cruiserweight.
     
  3. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Fought dont mean **** unless you win.
     
  4. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The best way to measure is who fought against the most hof'er and who had the most succesful rate against hof'ers
     
  5. smitty_son408

    smitty_son408 J ust E njoy T his S hit Full Member

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    The red are the guys he lost to and the orange are controversial outcomes. Gatti doesn't belong on that list.

    I thought he beat Trinidad but lost to both Pea and Quartey. That would make him 6-6 against his best opponents, one who is not note worthy (gatti) and 3 that are not that great (Chavez x2 and Camacho)
     
  6. Gonzarelli

    Gonzarelli Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I guess Marciano, PBF and Finito Lopez have the best resumes ever!
     
  7. Akxtinguish

    Akxtinguish Belt holder Full Member

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    Agreed, but I was saying for the resume alone, regardless of results, it's one hell of a list. He's fought amazing fighters, and apart from Pacquiao, they were all good fights even if he lost (by narrow margins).
     
  8. Gonzarelli

    Gonzarelli Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Take DLH's resume, compare it to other ATG's like Duran, Leonard and Hearns and use the same type of scruitiny and you'll notice that DLH stands right next to those guys. In fact, he might even be on top just based on resume!
     
  9. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    I cant believe this is even being debated its Harry Greb by far.

    What makes you think experts always have Greb in the top 5 or 3, it certainly isnt because of any footage they may have seen of him.
     
  10. smitty_son408

    smitty_son408 J ust E njoy T his S hit Full Member

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    Duran's win over Leonard is probably the best win in history, and Leonard holds wins over Benitez, Duran, Hearns, and Hagler (controversal) while the 1st three destroy anything DLH has ever accomplished. I wouldn't say Hearns resume is miles better than DLH, but he also holds win's over Benitez and Duran and moved all the way from welter to light heavy to beat undefeated Virgil Hill an accomplishment much better than DLH has ever achieved.
     
  11. smitty_son408

    smitty_son408 J ust E njoy T his S hit Full Member

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    :goodlooking at his resume on paper is eye popping, but the W counts a whole lot.
     
  12. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    It's Langford or Greb.

    Ezzard Charles is right behind them.
     
  13. Gonzarelli

    Gonzarelli Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your objectivity is sorely lacking, The above post is totally biased!

    And that's why I said "if you held them up to the same scrutiny" which you clearly are not doing.

    No doubt Leonards win over Duran was great but he also lost to him. And no mention of Leonards loss to Norris but you mention DLH's loss to Pac when there's plenty of similiarities between those two fights.!
     
  14. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Salvador Sanchez and Rocky Marciano should have the best resume . . . they are undefeated until their untimely demise.
     
  15. smitty_son408

    smitty_son408 J ust E njoy T his S hit Full Member

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    Well, let's scrutinize. Yes, he was done when he lost to Pac, same as Leonard/Norris and past prime when he lost to Floyd. Leonard had a short career, was dominated by Duran, thoroughly outboxed for the majority by Hearns the 1st fight and clearly lost the 2nd fight. He also had a few shady deals that I have made public on this site. But, Leonard also came off a long layoff and arguably beat most likely the best middleweight ever and his win over Hearns showed excellent durability and will over a stylistic foe. I won't even get into the the Benitez victory.

    Duran didn't perform well against top comp past welter, but was well established before then with wins over guys like DeJesus, Buchanan, Lampkin, and Palomino before beating Leonard at welter. Plus, he had success past prime by becoming middleweight champ beating Iran Barkley and Davey Moore and giving Hagler a good scrap.

    Hearns, though he lost to both Leonard and Hagler; also lost twice to Iran Barkley (pisses me off to this day :|) won titles 43 pounds above his starting weight and was the 1st person to ever achieve the feat. Beating a solid undefeated fighter 5 divisions north of your starting weight past your prime is a hell of an achievement.

    Hoya's best wins arguably don't even compare to these three men's best wins (Duran and Leonard's most certainly)/

    DLH performances against Trinidad, Vargas, Quartey (thought he lost) and Mosley II were great, but his wins over JCC, Camacho, Gatti, and Pea (who imo he lost to also) tend to be overrated. His so called middleweight run was pathetic as he robbed Sturm and was stopped by Hopkins. Hoya's best performance is Tito (which he was robbed) that took place at his best weight @ welter 3 divisions north of his starting weight. Can you honestly say that a win over Tito is better than the best victories of the three men stated?

    On paper the names jump out but the performances and outcomes actually matter more. Those three fighters performed better against top competition more often than DLH.