Should there be an end to catch weights regarding PACMAN??

Except this fight IS skewed to one fighter. You think both Cotto or Pacquiao are going to be at their optimum ability because of this? Get real.

 

you are so blinded with your pac-love that you fail to see the bigger picture. This is about the sport, not about an individual fighter. Whether Nate is a draw or not is irrelevant. The title itself is the leverage. The same way that with Pac money is the leverage. What that specific leverage is doesnt really matter. Just the fact that leverage is baing used to redefine weight divisions to suit someones own needs. Its bull****, no matter who does it.


and if Pac has "overstretched" himself too much already at 140, then he has no business fighting for a 147lb title.

 

But this catchweight thing has been happening even before you and all of us here in ESB were even born. Dela Hoya, Hopkins, Pavlik, Taylor, etc. fought in catchweights. Why raise a howl only now when a former flyweight Pac wants to fight in a catchweight. As I have said, you have the privilege to demand for your fighter to fight at a catchweight just as long as the other party agrees to your proposal.

Btw, don't you know that welterweight limit is 141 to 147?

 

Please tell me you're joking.....

Hopkins may well be better p4p than both Pavlik and DLH in terms of ability, but if you think DLH and Pavlik had a fair crack of the whip at those catchweights they had, you're living in cloud cuckoo-land. When Pavlik fought Taylor at 166, was he anywhere near as good as he was at 160 vs. Taylor? No. And you actually think he could carry another 4 lbs and be as effective?

What about DLH, tell me how well he performed in his only other fight above 154? That's what I thought....

 

Bingo, which is why Cotto should be allowed to weigh in at 147if he chooses, instead of putting himself at a disadvantage.

 

I doubt if Pac's camp will agree if Cotto can bulk up to 160. I guess nobody in his right mind will enter into a contract to get himself killed. As I've said if there is no agreement on a catchweight, there is no fight.

 

If the welterweight limit is 147, then a fighter should be able to prepare normally to make 147 and then rehydrate like normal. Yes, under those terms Pac would be a dead man - the point being he shouldn't be fighting Cotto anyway.

 

One thing sure is that it would be more disastrous for dela Hoya and Pavlk if they agreed to fight Hopkins in his comfort zone. The results showed that despite Hopkins going down in weight, he is the better fighter pound for pound vis-a-vis DLH and Pavlik.

 

That's why Pac cannot weigh in at 147 becaiuse he can only rehyrdate so much unlike Cotto who is a natural welterweight and has been bulking up to 160 in his previous fights. As I have said if Cotto cannot agree to 143 to give Pac a fighting chance or level the playing field, then the fight is off. But if Pac can consider 145 and agree to it, there is no problem on both sides.

 

I was totally against it when DLH-Hops happened. Hops-Pavlik I didnt care because a world title was not on the line.

catchweights per se are fine, as long as the title isnt on the line.

 

The Pavlik fight was in Hopkins' comfort zone, and whilst Hopkins had to boil himself down for the DLH fight doing so meant that neither fighter were at a comfortable weight. Now, if neither fighter is at a comfortable weight the chances are one person is suffering more than the other at said weight - it's not an equal disadvantage. It could have been Hopkins, it could have been DLH. Who it was is irrelevant, the point being that if one fighter is at a bigger disadvantage than another, is that fair? Catchweights are meant to be a leveller, but the reality is that it just blurs things more.

 

The playing field will NEVER be level between Pac and Cotto, that's what you fail to understand.

 

maybe Pac could also stipulate that he gets to wear 8oz gloves, but cotto has to wear 10's. And maybe pac could stipulate that he gets a 30 second count in the event of a knockdown, whereas cotto only gets 10.

And as long as cotto agrees, its all good right?

this is bull****...........

 

How can that be? Pac is a junior welter, Cotto is a welter. They can meet halfway at 143 or any weight agreed upon. How can this be not a level playing field? Both fighters are not of the same build, so why let them fight in 147 which is way advantageous to Cotto?

 

There are no stipulations of that sort, my friend. We are only talking about catchweight here which is as old as the sport itself.