A Clear Cut Explanation On Why Floyd "DOES" Deserve The Lions Share Against Pacman...

LOL you think that alot of people would be impressed by beating JMM? Mayweather is being criticize right now by alot of people. Saying that he would rather ask a smaller boxer to go up in weight and fight him instead of fighting boxers from his division or fighting Manny Pacquiao.

LOL if that's your opinion then I will not change it.

 

Uh No

 

..Ok but...then why dismiss the fact that Pacquiao also looked more impressive than Mayweather beatin DLH and Hatton? :hey

Let me guess...it just works one way around right?

 

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The truth is that in this recession Manny still sells and Floyd does not. He doens't have the loyal fans that Manny has.

 

ur a well know hater and once flody beats your avi you'll change it im sure care to place an avi bet on the floyd marquez if not stfu

 

Anyway, since there is just one fight preserving us to totally agree with each other, then i guess its not that bad!

 

and of course mayweather isn't the draw seeing as thoug he made and sold me in both fights with hatton and oscar u have no logic no proof or even knowledge of anything gtfoh

 

what are you talking about??

Everyone knows that your belief is ridiculous. Like I said earlier I won't change what you think.

 

A couple of things were a bit strange here, you mentioned a couple of times that a whole a lot of the variables in your argument will change if Pac beats Cotto. So obviously, a lot of those arguments wouldn't mean all that much if Pac does beat Cotto. If Pac loses to Cotto, then the arguments you made also wouldn't mean that much since Pac losing pretty much guarantees that Pac doesn't deserve the lions share.

Since Pac will fight Cotto, doesn't that render a lot of the points you made in your post moot since you're pretty much basing your opinion on what Pac has done as of the moment (pre-Cotto) when if there is a Floyd-Pac fight, it can only happen after the Cotto fight?

 

Floyd beat Hatton at 147 where Hatton had already looked bad against Collazo and he beat him in an ugly fight where he had a very favorable ref in Cortez, that allowed Floyd to get away with murder against Hatton and penalized Hatton on the flipside. Pacquaio knocked Hatton out with no controversy in less than two rounds at Hatton's best weight.

Floyd eeked out a win against DLH at 154. It was a better version of Hoya than the one that Pacquaio fought, in my opinion. But the domination of Hoya by Pacquaio was still more impressive than Floyd's performance overall, in my opinion, as he won every minute of every round and forced Hoya to quit.

In terms of the PPV numbers, as others have stated, Pac fought Hoya and Hatton during recession time, Floyd did not. Pac also fought both after both had lost some luster due to losing to Floyd, and the Hoya fight was regarded as a mismatch anyway since Pac started his career at 106 and had never fought at 147, just having one fight at 135. Pacquaio also has the better PPV high number between the two in a fight not involving Hoya or Hatton, with Pac vs JMM II generating over 400k PPV buys. We'll see how the two compare when Floyd vs JMM and Pac vs Cotto rolls around, but I doubt it will go well for Floyd in terms of number comparisons.

Floyd's undefeated, but Pac clearly has the better resume of wins. He has more wins period, and he has the Mexican HoF group of Morales, Barrera, and Marquez on his ledger, as well as DLH and Hatton. Floyd's best wins comparatively after that are probably Corrales and Castillo(x2). Neither fighter is in the class of Morales, MAB, and JMM, plus, like Pac vs JMM, Floyd arguably lost to Castillo.

On Floyd vs JMM, it wouldn't do much for his case versus Pacquaio as JMM is fighting two weight classes up from a weight class he just started on late last year. Floyd taking this fight over a more meaningful fight against Pac, Mosley, or Cotto has gotten him deserved flak.

Neither fighter "needs" to do anything else, Pac doesn't need Floyd and Floyd doesn't need Pac, they could retire right now and be secure in their HoF spots. However, Pac has knocked some of the shine off of Floyd two biggest name wins, and is fighting an opponent Floyd has been accused of dodging in Cotto. The general perception is that Pac takes on challenges, while Floyd simply fights for high money/low risk. If one "needs" the other more, it's Floyd, though I think the fans would be happy if he took on, say, Mosley, as well or in lieu in Pacquaio.

Ultimately, in my opinion, neither has proven themselves to be a ridiculous draw without a good opponent. If I were to put money on it, I would say Pacquaio brings more fans to the table at this point, but 50/50 is a fair amount. Floyd doesn't deserve more and even though he has a better case in my view, neither does Pac.

 

Im not a fan of either guy but seriously pac would be extremely generous to let floyd have 50% , Floyd is no Tyson or DLH he is not mainstream only boxing fans care about him and most of them just want to see him lose he can't just retire for a couple of years and expect to get more money than the the biggest name in boxing at the moment who is also more exicting than him , a lot more fun to watch and has a bigger fanbase , he should be thankfull if he can get 50% against a smaller guy and a chance to regain his status as P4P#1 of course Floyd needs pac more than pac needs him.

Not that it matters because i'm pretty sure that Pac won't beat Cotto.

 

Let's see...

Floyd doesn't need Pac:
He doesn't need to justify his own personal worth and past accomplishments or prove his present P4P #1 talent in the boxing world.

Yes he does if :
a) He wants to make the most money possible. (the 27% to Arum is irrelevant)
b) He sincerely wants to give the fans the fight they truly want to see.
c) He wants to further enhance his already impressive status by possibly adding a career defining type of fight like the past Hearns-Hagler; Leonard-Hearns; Leonard-Duran or Leonard-Hagler matchups !

 

Well stated.:deal