Is Cotto able to weigh as much as he wants come fight night?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Dom79, Jul 28, 2009.


  1. Dom79

    Dom79 Active Member Full Member

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    I know Cotto tends to balloon up to around 155-160lbs come fight night. Is there anything in the contract that says Cotto must weigh under a certian limit come fight time?
     
  2. Andre

    Andre BAD INTENTIONS!!!!!!!!!!! Full Member

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    I want to know this as well, i heard rumors before the fight was confirmed that Cotto wouldn't be able to rehydrate beyond a certain limit on fight night.
     
  3. Dom79

    Dom79 Active Member Full Member

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    I'm a big fan of both Pac and Cotto. I dont understand all the complaining coming from the biased Cotto fan about 2lbs. Come fight night, Pac is going to be outweighed by about 10lbs.
     
  4. Damo1712

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    As far as im aware the rule is you can't weigh any more than 14lbs over your weigh in weight on fight night whether or not your name is cotto.

    This has been legislation since Arturo Gatti was 19lbs over on fight night vs Gamache
     
  5. Dom79

    Dom79 Active Member Full Member

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    This is news to me. Didn't Clottey came in at 170 vs Corrales (r.i.p) ?
     
  6. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    hmmn.. never heard of this, but i think he can balloon all he want
     
  7. julianfoster88

    julianfoster88 Member Full Member

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    He should be able to go up as much as he wants because hes going down a couple pounds below his weight class and it could possibly be difficult to make those extra two pounds so I think it would be logical for him to rehydrate to wherever he wants
     
  8. Dom79

    Dom79 Active Member Full Member

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    He came weighed in at 146 vs Clottey. I dont think cutting 1 more lb should be THAT difficult now.
     
  9. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm also a fan of both.

    Slightly more of a pacfan, actually, but like them both.

    That said, the fight should be at 147 with all the usual rules regarding weigh-in.

    I keep hearing about how little difference 2 lb will make to Cotto.

    If that's so, the converse must also be true.

    How much difference will a 2 lb heavier Cotto make to Pac?


    We have 17 weight categories, more than enough.

    This should be for a title. For Pac, if it isn't and he wins, it'll be like climbing Mt Everest and turning back a hundred feet from the top.

    To have the title and have it legitimately, you need to win it without putting unfair barriers in the way of the current title holder.

    There is a 147 lb division. If you force the 147 lb champ to fight at 140 or 143 or 145, can you call yourself the 147 lb champ ?

    And if Pac picks up the title with 145 forced as the weight, at what weight will the defences take place ?

    If 147, then the Cotto fight will be seen clearly as not having been fair.

    If 145, then the division will have been converted (de facto) to 145.



    It's in Pac's interest that this fight take place at 147 and with a belt at stake.


    If 2lb makes such little difference, fight at the limit already set out.


    Or fight a non-title catchweight bout.

    I know which one I'd rather watch.
     
  10. julianfoster88

    julianfoster88 Member Full Member

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    It shouldnt be but with those catchweight fights you can overtrain and go down more than you want to because your simply focused on making that weight so a lot of fighters deprive themselves and stuff just to make the weight
     
  11. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't see what difference 1 pound is going to make, but if he can't rehydrate passed a certain point then that's bull****.... I can deal with 14 pounds, but anything less than that is pushing it
     
  12. Dom79

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    Well originally Pac wanted the fight to take place at 143. After several negotiations, he settled on 145. Even though it isnt much, its still something Cotto's going to have to work a little harder to achieve. I feel it kind've balances out being that Pac will be at a weight disadvantage come fight night with Cotto weighing around 158.

    For the record, i'm not a fan of catchweights, but I do realize that Pac is attempting something that has never been done before. It takes alot of balls/heart to step in the ring with Cotto, when you yourself started out at 106lbs. Sacrificing 2lbs for a guy giving u a shot at his throne isnt asking for much in my opinion.
     
  13. redmond22588

    redmond22588 Blood and Guts Full Member

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    I think they should just fight at 147. Thus killing any after fight BS.
     
  14. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    On the second part of the highlighted sentence:

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    It's Cotto who has the throne here (the welterweight title that might be on the line). If you're referring to Pac's lb4lb #1 spot, its

    a) a subjective assessment and not a 'title'

    b) In any case, won't be on the line. A Cotto victory will probably not give him the lb4lb # 1 spot.



    On the first part of the highlighted:

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    Again, it's like Pac climbing Everest and turning back when he's within sight of the top.

    IF he's trying to do what hasn't been done before, do it all the way.

    If 2lb makes so little difference, fight at 147 and for the title.

    Then, the detractors will not have the excuse that he won the title unfairly.


    If he wins at 145, the victory will be good.

    But he won't be a legitimate welterweight champion.

    Welterweight limit is 147.
     
  15. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he's still in his weight class...