So when Valuev KO's Haye...

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  1. MemoCan

    MemoCan *****49ers Express***** Full Member

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    Shang TSung Would Be Proud:yep
     
  2. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Valouev will knock Haye down with a jab!!! Valouev has fantastic chin, reach, weight, size, stamina, jab, etc. Haye has almost nothing.
     
  3. doomeddisciple

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    Farm...I mean, look. You do make some occasionally relevant points - Especially when the giant Klits of Floyd isn't involved - But that appraisal of Valuev's skill makes you sound like you started watching boxing last week.

    It's like you're sucumbing to the dark side of the force as your anger guides you whenver H A Y E gets typed in a post...

    Valuev is utterly rubbish - At best he won 2 rounds in that Holyfield fight which was hardly Tua Ibeabuchi in punch numbers.

    I will join you in the laughter brigade if Haye get's KO'd - I don't really like Haye myself, but I can see that he does have considerably more skill than Valuev.
     
  4. RightCross

    RightCross Grandmaster of Boxing Full Member

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    If ruiz can do enough to beat valuev (I thought he did) and Chagaev can easily defeat him. Holy was robbed against him, if Haye cannot beat valuev he has no business being at heavyweight.
     
  5. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    I have followed Valouev's career for years. Valouev beat Ruiz and Chagaev, yes close decision vs. Chagaev but he did win that fight. Haye was stopped by Solis and the cruiserweight who?
     
  6. madballster

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    The problem for Haye is not only does he have to win against Valuev but he is expected to do so in spectacular fashion. Haye is rather inexperienced considering he's 28. Also he will not have fought in a year by then. He has to be very very careful with his stamina. If he doesn't pace himself right he might well be fighting like a wet paper bag from the 6-7th round on as 1000 lbs of Valuev's weight are slowly squeezing the air out of his lungs whenever he leans on him.
     
  7. Farmboxer

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    Valouev has really good stamina, great chin, so Haye would have to win by a decision over 12 rounds.
     
  8. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Don King is known to bribe the judges. Judges once they land in Germany for some reason LOVE the bribes. Maybe they offer them a free Mercedes/Audi/Porsche of their choice? Free hookers? I don't know.

    Maybe Don King does his magic again and we see another SD for Valuev ;)
     
  9. Farmboxer

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    Probably a knockout over Haye.
     
  10. No10Point

    No10Point Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I to dont think Haye will KO Valuev.
    I have never thought Haye to be the hard of a hitter. The only person he TKO'd with a chin was mOrmeck and if you watched that fight he should have been DQ'd for rabbit punching (right before the TKO)
    I bet Evander hits harder still.
    And Evander connected more than once on Valuev.

    As far as Valuev goes.
    I honestly dont think he is that powerful per say. He's lack of ability to deliver causes that. But at 7' and 300 plus pounds... he aint slapping like a little girl for sure.
    He needs to learn to cup with a left hook and bring his right down onto the top of their heads.
    LOL

    madballster
    I guarantee it is for more than 3 fights. That is Don Kings style. Always has been.
    I would say 5-6 options. So No. either way I do not think we will ever see Haye fight the Klitchko's.
     
  11. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Don King does not want Klitschkos to fight Valoeuv. Valouev refused to fight Vlad or Vitali.
     
  12. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    I just looked through the WBA heavy rankings. Ruiz is still official contender so if Haye wins against Valuev that will be his first opponent. Then, probably a rematch against Valuev. After that, he is pretty much free to pick those guys within the Top 15 that are Don King fighters or are willing to sign a contract with him. Plenty of bums to pick from that will happily fly to England and fight for a nice payday.

    Haye won't face any real opposition should he beat Valuev and he will simply hide in England until both Klitz are retired.
     
  13. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Haye wants a title without fighting for it.
     
  14. H .

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    I would be stunned if Valuev KOd Haye, but I would laugh my ass off
     
  15. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    It would be funny if Haye were caught off balance and without guard for just a second, and Valuev could bring out one of those ridiculously huge swinging overhand rights. The chances are slim but it would be hilarious.