Nate Campbell doesn't deserve a No Contest....

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by WiDDoW_MaKeR, Aug 1, 2009.


  1. sitiyzal

    sitiyzal ................. Full Member

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    Talk about delusional. Campbell covered up after he ate the headbutt & none of the follow up shots landed. He then backed off & complained, then again 10 seconds later.
     
  2. JasonChaos27

    JasonChaos27 Active Member Full Member

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    Doesnt matter if you think he bitched out or not. Its not up to you to decide whether it should be ruled a no contest. The rules clearly state if a cut is caused by a headbutt ( which no one has argued that it wasnt) before round 4, the fight is ruled a nc. You cannot debate the rules or that the cut wa snot caused by a headbutt. Whether you think it was a ***** move or not is not relevent.
     
  3. simon850

    simon850 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If he had spots in his eye like he said then he had every right to demand the fight be stopped, however know-one knows if this is true. The cut itself was not that bad at all, Cotto's cut against Clottey was 10 times worse.
     
  4. JasonChaos27

    JasonChaos27 Active Member Full Member

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    No kidding...its amazing the lengths people will go to on this site with their bull**** comments. Reminds me of people saying the Margarito situation was hand lotion.
     
  5. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hand lotion :patsch:rofl

    Someone realy said that?
     
  6. JasonChaos27

    JasonChaos27 Active Member Full Member

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    Ha oh ya. You would be surprised how many people..Freddy Wak, Bazooka3, quite a few others I cant recall their names right now.
     
  7. Solid Chin

    Solid Chin Concrete Wars Full Member

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    Its ****ing amazes me how much **** can come out of peoples mouths after something like this.

    Number 1, If the guy is seeing spots do you know what that means ?
    If you cannot understand this in medical terms then shut the **** up.

    Number 2, you said that an uppercut hit Nate after the butt, that just goes to show that you must have spots in your eye because Nate had his ****ing glove up and the punch never even touched his face.
    Watch the ****ing tape.

    Number 3, its easy to talk like a complete asswipe about a fighter from the comfort of your rocking chair at home but unless you've ever been in the ring and laced up the gloves and experienced that situation what your spouting holds zero relevance to anything. Your just making yourself sound like a complete plank on the internet.

    Number 4, get your facts in order before coming with arguments as to why it should not be ruled a no contest. The video evidence is plain to see and if you cant see that then your a complete doofus.

    Number 5, yes Campbell did not want to carry on fighting, you could say he quit but the point is would you want to fight somebody like Bradley with one eye and also risk damaging the other eye permanently by continuing to fight?

    If your willing to lose an eye then that's you but I would prefer to have both of mine.
     
  8. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rahman wasnt winning that fight.
     
  9. JohnAkiBoa

    JohnAkiBoa Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeas he was, would have won Toney using his Jab alone. Winning by headbutt is not legit win or giving right for idiot nut huggers to say my hero made another man quit.:rofl
     
  10. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Never mind should it be No contest or not.

    Fact is. Toney wasn’t losing the fight before head but, like Widdow said.
    Toney were leading in scorecards at that point.
     
  11. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    The fight was going to stopped either way. Nate had bleeding behind the eye. Could of very easily lost complete vision in his eye if he fought on.
     
  12. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Correct.
     
  13. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Are you done crying yet? Put your purse down and use some logic.

    1. I didn't bash on Nate Campbell for quitting. I pointed out that he was clearly lobbying to get the fight stopped before 4 rounds could be completed. That was obvious.

    2. The cut was ruled by a punch, so nothing else really matters.

    3. Even if the cut was ruled as being caused by a headbutt, they do NOT have to rule the fight a No Contest if the Doctor doesn't consider the cut bad enough to stop the fight. If the fight is stopped because the fighter is telling the Doctor or Ref that he can't see.... then he simply can't see. That doesn't mean that it has anything to do with the cut, even though you are pretending that it does. Seeing spots is an indication that there is bleeding BEHIND the eye. There would be absolutely no way of proving that whatever hemorrhage he suffered in that region has any correlation with the cut or the headbutt. Any punch that landed on Campbell's head could be responsible for causing Campbell to see spots. It was obvious that it wasn't from the blood dripping directly into the eye, because Campbell was saying in the post fight interview that he was still seeing spots. So... the headbutt... and the cut have nothing to do with the stoppage anyways.

    In all honesty... I think this is a simple case of Campbell being overwhelmed and trying to be a cagey vet by not only opting out of the fight before he is stopped, but also trying to line up another shot and payday in the process. It didn't work. In reality Campbell had no chance in that fight, he was really being dominated.
     
  14. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Once again... that rule only has to be used when the Doctor or Ref considers the cut bad enough to stop the fight. Just because Campbell was cut by a headbutt... doesn't mean that the fight has to be ruled a No Contest... especially when the Doctor didn't consider the cut bad enough to stop the fight.

    In other words.... the fight was NOT stopped on the cut. So, the cut being from, or not being from a headbutt really doesn't matter. The fight was stopped because Campbell told the Doctor that he couldn't see, he was seeing spots (with no blood in his eye). Once again, this would be caused by a hemorrhage and bleeding behind the eye... which could have been caused by any one of the punches that landed on him. They can't just assume that since he is seeing spots that it has any relation to the cut. That isn't how it works.

    So we have a situation where even though it may be rather obvious that there was a clash of heads causing a cut, and the fight was stopped before 4 rounds.... it's not a No Contest because the fight was NOT stopped due to the cut.
     
  15. BrooklynMumin

    BrooklynMumin HOPKINS A " G " Full Member

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    You know in a way i kind of feel what the ref is saying, this guy quit with not even that bad a cut on his eye. He was extra dramatic about it because he knew he was taking an asswhooping the hell with em'. Give him a tko. Coward!