Cotto/Pacquiao: Calling It As It Is...

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  1. Malik

    Malik Just bumping and reading Full Member

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    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=20766&more=1

    "Pacquiao should either get the even bigger slice of the pie and fight at the full welterweight limit, or drop Cotto altogether and go for the biggest fight in boxing right now with the former pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather Jr."

    "In his last fight against the tough and underrated Joshua Clottey, Cotto received a lot of undeserved criticism when he managed a close and controversial decision win while suffering a bad cut due to a clash of heads. This close result was not entirely unexpected as a lot of boxing writers predicted a blood-and-guts drawn-out war considering the toughness and styles of both combatants. Cotto actually performed well and showed his toughness once again, which was put in doubt after he quit under the assault of the Tijuana Tornado. Sure, he looked vulnerable in spots when the Ghanaian Clottey was able to land solid shots. But he has looked vulnerable before against Shane Mosley, even worse in fights against Zab Judah and Ricardo Torres. He did not knock out Clottey but who has? Sometimes the boxing public can be a picky lot indeed."

    "Cotto being a big welterweight will pose the question of how a former flyweight fighter will take the big shots the Caguas mauler dishes out. Pacquiao is not even a big junior welterweight, but he has taken well the punches dela Hoya and Hatton had managed to land on him. However, Cotto is a different animal altogether and although dela Hoya possessed bigger one-punch knockout power Miguel has thudding power that is delivered thru sustained combinations to the head and especially the body."

    "Although Manny Pacquiao has continuously shocked the world fight after fight, he may be bottoming out by taking on a strong top-tier welterweight in Cotto. At this point, the bookmakersÂ’ odds favoring the Filipino phenom are understandably relying on both protagonistsÂ’ recent performances. The disparity in size is innocently ignored but it may be the biggest factor come fight night."


    Nice to see an article that and dissect the whole scenario objectively and does not favor Pacquiao just because the thought of him murdering Hatton in 2 rounds is still vividly fresh in our memory.:deal

    IMO, Cotto's size, plus his underrated boxing skills, will put an end to the magic of Pacquaio.
     
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    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    It's a well written article, but I disagree with a lot of it.
     
  3. Malik

    Malik Just bumping and reading Full Member

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    I feel the author made some valid points in that Cotto is naturally bigger and a legit WW who can actually punch and is fast for his size.

    Not discrediting Pacquaio but his last two fights did not give an idea that he can take a power shot from a big sized guy, especially if it is coming from Cotto.
     
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    the same people says manny never face as strong as hatton.... manny never face as big as david diaz, manny never face as skilled and as big as DLH. I know your not a noob this is just your alt so after the fight you'll just dump this account and create a knew one and again will say if pac face floyd or mosley that he never face as............. :hat
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Pacquiao's punch resistance hasn't really been tested above 130, that much is true.

    But he's the best 140lb fighter in the world now planning to step up to 147. Hatton, too, is fast for his size, especially in the footspeed department.

    I'm picking Pacquiao, personally, especially if it is at 145.
     
  6. Malik

    Malik Just bumping and reading Full Member

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    Not actually a noob here, but you are overrating him a lot if you will favor him over a legit WW with power and some boxing skills.

    It as simple as that.:smoke
     
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    :lol::lol: believe what you want to believe... It's funny a lot of people don't believe in pac.... I remember that only me and PACD (it's sad our original accounts banned) and some ******* believe that pac can win against hoya.... and now a lot believe pac will KO cotto even those haters of him but still some are making themeselves believe that pac will loose.
     
  8. Malik

    Malik Just bumping and reading Full Member

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    Fair enough then.

    I won't be surprised to see if Pac pulls this one off, but I am favoring a legit welterweight who had stood toe-to-toe against Mosley, Margarito and Clottey.
     
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    Malik Just bumping and reading Full Member

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    It is not about not believing in Pacquaio, or underestimating what Pac has done, but let us be realistic about all of these "Pac will KO Cotto" whimsical comments.:yep
     
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    because he will.:hey
     
  11. Malik

    Malik Just bumping and reading Full Member

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    Not counting on it man.:good
     
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    Nice read.

    I am still ambivalent about all the hoopla regarding this fight though.
     
  13. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    Cotto isn't fast...god hve you watched his fights....The bad nes for pac; however, is that he's so far been able to neutralize every speedy fighter's speed he's been in with. He knows a tone about timing and his powerful jab never comes exactly when you expect it to.

    The problems he's going to have to fix are Sometimes (especially early) he really steps into his punches, which basically opens hm up for counters - a la Zab in round 1. His second problem is that he holds his right hand off to the side of his head like he's blocking a hook so he's wideopen for the straight left had - again watch howmany times zab tagged him with this punch.

    Personally I don't think as higly of Pacquiao as many here do. I think his fghts with Marquez show how a good technician can neutralize a lot of his assests. Miguel Cotto will be the best technician he's faced since facing Marquez.

    Anoter thing to onsider is that neither of these guys are going to be able to deal with the other's power very well. I think Pacquiao will have a harder tme dealing with Cotto's power then Cotto with pacquiao. Especially if the fight goes into the late rounds cause thats when Cotto really starts to wear on guys.


    Personally I see this fight looking like a reverse of the MArgo fight, with manny lookin good earl but evetually geting the **** knocked outof him late.

    My last point is that Manny pacquiao wants to have the first two months of his camp in the philipeens, which Roach has gone on record as saying is a bad idea. If Manny is going to take cotto less seriously then he did DLH or HAtton he's in trouble because of these three Cotto is the one you that you should be training the hardes for.
     
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    If Pac decides to train in our country, he's in for a lot of distraction which won't help him in the fight. I wonder why they wouldn't train in the Wild Card like he did the previous fights.

    Underestimating Cotto would prove to be disastrous.
     
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    I have no doubt in cottos boxing ability, however, he has been wobbled a few times from a single hard punch that lands cleanly, i think pacman has the accuracy and aggression to land that punch. It's hard to pick, due to cottos boxing skill and natural size advantage, but i just think that manny may well overwhelm him in the first 5 or 6 rounds and if he gets him on ***** street, i think he has the tools to finsh the job. I'm picking pac by ko or tko in 6.