Can Boxing Evolve and Improve Much More Technically Then It Has In The Last 70 Years?

the thing is, Boxing's techniques and fundamentals, the orthodox "textbook" stances are set in stone, there's a right and a wrong, there's a base/rules and few can get away with breaking it and if they do, then they have to be outrageous and athletic phenoms. Fighters styles evolve as they apply the techniques to best suit them. But the fundamentals, training methods, equipments are pretty much steadfast and universal.

fighters attributes and abilities, level and knowledge of the trainers just the whole breeding ground make the techniques into an exceptional end result, so the question is what will be the level of all these circumstances in the future? I do feel that we'll probabily get less quality in depth and a lot less complete fighters in the future but this all goes back to the standing of boxing, the level of participation and quality of the training.

 

You can be an aggresive fighter and be defensively astute at the same time. Some fighters tend to be more defensive than others. For example i just watched duran in his prime, that guy new how to box.

 

Myth IMO

Floyd has been involved in the very biggest fights of recent years, and Hopkins too

 

That's why I said most fighters, there are exceptions to the rule, but in the ratio of things they are in a small minority.
And when Mayweather & Hopkins are in big fights (commercially/financially), look who's in the other corner who helps to make it a big fight...

 

Great post.

I also feel there is a decline in trainers and their methods too, which is obviously going to have a knock on effect to the boxers. For example I had another trainer give me grief a few weeks ago because I was working my boxer on the pads doing hooks, uppercuts and generally working on the inside. He said we should be standing up straight throwing long, straight 1-2's.
Of course I thanked him for his comments and ignored them. Of course, we work on all aspects not just the inside stuff, but his narrow, single mindedness was astonishing.

 

This is a quality thread.

I don't really think the technical side of boxing can evolve much more than it has alreasy - the majority of the evolution process took place between the 19th century and 1940. All the fundamentals of the sport (perhaps barring training methods) have been in place for a long time now and the vast majority of trainers will base their methods around these tried and tested provisos.

There will always be fighters that break out of this mould, and may well be encouraged by their trainers to do so, but only when it becomes clear that the fighters' unorthodox techniques works better/is more natural than the standard. The only thing I see changing and evolving is training methods - more specifically fitness/endurance training.

 

Who goes for big slow jogs? The best way to burn fat is to run slowly for a long period of time. Thats why they should be doing long runs at the start of a camp.

 

Lol who was that?

Some of the trainers in this sport are total ****. I've heard some *******s which I could never share on here i'd be alienated for ever but trust me it does go on big time. At our gym we have a policy with the lads.... They can train wherever they want. We let them go to other gyms if they want to... No funny looks, no jealous critisms.... The reason- we know for a fact we do our job properly.

 

At times...........but Pacman has outdone him on head to head basis......with two fighters of recent past.

Mayweather can be awesome but also settles for pot shotting

 

Come there is a decline in good trainers. When Hatton first start training with Mayweather he couldnt throw basic combinations.

everyone slags of mayweather for not training properly, remember what mayweather said in the corner to hatton after round 1 "if you had been listening to me this wouldnt have happend"

 

Just some guy I know from the amateurs, never really won anything with any of his boys so I won't name him to save the embarrassment.
The boxer I was training was Piper, so as you know he's turning pro. I explained to him that in the pro game inside fighting is far more prominent than what goes on in the amateurs, it's a very different game.
But he wasn't having none of it, he just said "boxing is boxing at the end of the day" and basically said I was doing it all wrong blah, blah, blah.
But then again, he's been involved in the game for 30 or so years and is yet to produce a real winner, so I think I'll stick to my own ways for now thanks...

Don't get me wrong, I love hearing things from different trainers as I have no ego, the more you can learn the better. But this was just to try and big himself up ("You're doing it ****, look everyone I'm telling him how to do it right. Look at me!") but all he did was make himself look a tit really. Showed how limited he really is and his lack of understanding of professional boxing.