So who is greater in ATG Ranking? Pacquiao Vs Hoya?

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  1. snell

    snell FEU-NRMF Full Member

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    how can i continue an argument if you wont take "no" for an answer and you still fail to realized that everyone in this site is entitled to their own opinion??

    you fail uli...

    View Poll Results: who is greater in ATG ranking?


    pacquiao
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    150 66.67%

    hoya
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    65 28.89%


    look at the poll.;)
     
  2. 4life

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    Meaning you dont have a life, that's why you got all the time to debate. For once just accept the fact, Dela hoya is the biggest choker in boxing history. All the talent, none of the drive to propel him the biggest wins that would've made him THE ALL TIME GREATEST ( well, arguable against the likes of ali and such ). I was once a dela hoya nuthugger. I got off his dick after the tito fight, dude ****in ran for 4 rounds. The ***** pulled a mayweather. Is that your definition of an ATG. Get off his nuts men, it aint healthy for you.
     
  3. Irishrover91

    Irishrover91 REP 4 SOUTH AFRICA Full Member

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    Wise up now come on in this case you are saying that he is better than the likes of The sugar Rays, Hagler, Hearns, Duran and so the list continues mate, however this would improve his ranking big time:patsch
     
  4. Knives7

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    HMmm... Oscar didn't fight back because he couldn't fight back. Pacquiao was just too fast and too strong for Oscar. He didn't purposely throw himself into the ropes. He couldn't handle the pressure and was pushed back into the ropes. He made so many mistakes against Manny Pacquiao. Pacquiao's victory against Oscar should still be credited. I doubt Mayweather will be able to push back Oscar like Pacquiao did. If Mayweather fought Oscar at 147, Mayweather will use the same tactics he used against Oscar at 154, and that is to out-box Oscar and win by decision.

    I will still rank Pacquiao higher than Oscar since Oscar was always blowing his biggest fights and Pacquiao doesn't.
     
  5. Knives7

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    Definitely, Pacquiao beating Mayweather, and Cotto will boost his ATG rankings! I would rank him in the top 10 if he beats Mosley and JMM (convincingly).
     
  6. huskyboy

    huskyboy Member Full Member

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    7th Titles in as many weight division... he is dominating in these lower weights... not sure if any other can do that...

    What would pacquiao have to do to be the ATG?
     
  7. huskyboy

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    jmm has been knocked down 4 times by pacquiao where pacquiao hasn't been knocked down by him... regardless of outcome of the last 2 fights... JMM got beat up...

    sure mosley would be good but cotto beat mosley.... maybe early next year it will be pacquiao mosely then later in the year pacquiao mayweather... but im pretty sure pacquiao will retire by end of next year...
     
  8. Irishrover91

    Irishrover91 REP 4 SOUTH AFRICA Full Member

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    Luk i no wer ur cumin from he is gud and these fites wud propel him mate, but its just boxing aint as gud now, so in my he cudnt become one unless he was born in a different era
     
  9. Knives7

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    It's true that Pacquiao KD Marquez in their 1st fight 3 times in first round and ended up with a Draw*(I thought Pac won but whatever). In that draw decision, Marquez is the only one that received some damage. Remember that Marquez also landed some meaningful shots on Pacquiao. Pacquiao was beat up aswell. I said that Pacquiao should fight JMM again and beat him convincingly and by that I mean that Pacquiao should KO JMM to shut up his critics. Pacquiao's fight against JMM maybe question if he leaves JMM alone.

    He has 2 more fights after the Cotto fight. I'm guessing that would be against Mayweather and the last fight would probably be against either Mosley or Marquez.
     
  10. Bad_Intentions

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  11. huskyboy

    huskyboy Member Full Member

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    well for my era... pacquiao can be ATG... 7 title in as many weight classes with a heart of a champion... no quit mentality... maybe its not the weak competition but hes really that good...
     
  12. Knives7

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    He has only 6.... right now but I guess if you assume that he will beat Cotto then 7.
     
  13. IsaL

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    This what you call BLIND MAN LOVE.
     
  14. huskyboy

    huskyboy Member Full Member

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    yup..."the greatest"
     
  15. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac wasn't pushing Oscar around. Oscar was backing off and backed himself up into the ropes, in the corner. Sure Pac landing at will had something to do with this but even Pac, at one point, stepped back and literally waited for Oscar to exit the corner but Oscar just sat there. Watch it again if you don't believe me, Oscar could have easily stepped to the right and got out. He basically quit on his feet during the fight. He had nothing. I'm actually surprised Pac couldn't drop him or even hurt or wobble him. If you ask me that takes away from Pac. Oscar was basically a corpse and Pac landed everything he threw and Oscar absorbed it all.

    Yes, pac is awesome. But yes, Oscar was finished before that fight even started.