The worst chinned fighters to win a linear world title?

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  1. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Michael Moorer was the first to come to mind.
     
  2. raiderjay

    raiderjay Active Member Full Member

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    Was Julian Jackson a lineal champ?
     
  3. raiderjay

    raiderjay Active Member Full Member

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    Terry Norris perhaps?
     
  4. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Patterson chin was bad. That was his biggest weaknesses. I'm surprised people are defending this. He was one heck of a boxer.
     
  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Stracey was stopped by Palomino from left hooks to the body :patsch
     
  6. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tommy Hearns chin was no that great.
     
  7. Jack Dempsey

    Jack Dempsey Legend Full Member

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    Could be, I did read it some time ago, anyone know how many times louis was down? There was Galento Marciano Braddock Walcott schmeling, mauriello? What others?
     
  8. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who blew Floyd into oblivion because of his 'weak' chin. Liston? He waded in and fought the "people's fight'' as my old black janitor friend told me years ago, and...was rising. And, as I said before, what if Ingo had decked him at the END of round three? Patterson's weakness was himself, nothing more. Virtually all of his losses weren't the result of his chin but simply being in against a bigger all-time great. Simply too small to compete when you come right down to it (at least against the bigger boys) - but don't tell me a Lyle for example or a Norton wouldn't have their hands full against him. That left hook was a killer when it connected!
    He (again I repeat myself, sorry) took 24???? rounds to dispose of Roy Harris & Brian London? That was his weakness, the passivity...
    Chores to do, back later...
     
  9. Sonny Carson

    Sonny Carson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Louis chin was not weak. You had to give him a beating to knock him out. And alot of his knockdown were flash knockdown's.
     
  10. janitor

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    Buddy Baer knocked him down and through the ropes. He was not off his feet against Maurellio but I fancy he was hurt more than he was against some of the guys who knocked him down.

    I think that with Louis's like with Charles the consistantly high level of opposition provides some mitigation.

    It is generaly when you start fighting guys in the top 10 that you start hitting the canvas.
     
  11. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, the real top 10.
     
  12. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    It is always going to be subjective who the top ten fighters in a given weight class are at any given time.

    Having said that I think that you would have to conceed that everybody who dropped Louis was top five at the time of the fight.
     
  13. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jackie Paterson - stopped 10 times.

    Scartissue
     
  14. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    :patsch

    Marciano has far more success. He has an iron chin and weighs around the same as Floyd. Floyd isn't that much smaller than Ingo (Liston yes) but he also gets knocked down by guys around his size. The thing is, his chin was his biggest weakness. Ali said he was the best boxer he faced. Floyd had success but a bad chin. Why do you think he passive? Maybe he was because of his chin or inability to take punches? Cause and effect my friend. Think it through. Floyd's passiveness was another weakness, but it was due to his chin and not nearly as much as a weaknesses as his chin. So what if he isn't KOing everyone. He can outbox anyone as long as they don't hurt him. Not too hard to do though.

    Harris knocked him down in the 2nd round. Harris has a 25% KO percentage.
    Patterson down 7 times against Ingo in 3 rounds.
    Patterson down twice in the 1st round in the 3rd Ingo fight.
    Patterson was KOed in 2:05 against Liston. 1 time on the floor and down.
    Patterson downed 3 times in the 1st rounda against Liston.
    Patterson down in the 2nd against Quarry.
    Bonavena had him down in the 4th in 72.

    I think that suffices to say he had a weak chin. As a HW he was down or out 15-20 times? How is his chin superior to say Michael Moorer's?
     
  15. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    It also wasn't that bad.