Is This Man the Greatest Bantam Of All time?

i can't even begin to think about that one myself

 

It's a dilemna isn't it :?

 

I think possibly so. Gomez's chin was sometimes vulnerable, and he also had something of a tendency to lose discipline and get caught up in slugfests - neither of which would likely do him any favors against Jofre. Jofre was better and more well-rounded than Zarate IMO, and certainly moreso than Pintor. I think Jofre could avoid getting sucked into the kind of trap that Zarate was, and could possibly stop Gomez late.

 

Hotting up this isn't it

 

This was always my train of thought, particularly where Jofre's technical excellence and completeness are concerned. I thought Gomez displayed a pretty good chin and greater discipline prior to being fustigated by Sanchez though.

 

I'm not so sure about Medel. He was the first (and for a long time, the only) fighter to KO Harada. I think with one punch, he hit at least as hard as Olivares.

 

this is absolutely true. Gomez could box when he wanted to but he could get sloppy. The sanchez fight for instance started out with a disciplined boxer/puncher but once he faced stiff resistance (from an admittedly bigger fighter) his gameplan went out the window. The problem is that Gomez, when caught in slugfests, usually won. He was bigger than Jofre and certainly had more one punch power. It comes down I feel to who fights their fight; they're both boxer punchers but Jofre was more technically sound and adaptable. If he can stick to a gameplan of short, straight counters, he could wear gomez down. The problem is at any time bazooka can change the tide and when in full force was an incredible offensive fighter.

 

Thats just about the most solid argument you are going to get on that discussion.

But on the other hand..The sheer intensity and natural offensive talent of Wilfredo could really offset the solid all around skills of Eder. It does happens quite a lot at this level.

Its just a fight I have a hard time getting my head around as Gomez is near unbeatable at his best, at that weight...But near unbeatable isnt unbeatable and Jofre is certainly one of those fighters who could prove that.

 

We're talking about real top fighters here, Im sur in a series there could be different outcomes.

 

Quite possibly, I'll have to look at Medel a bit more extensively; I'd forgotten that he KO'd Harada atsch. Still, I don't think he put it all together like Olivares in a pure offensive sense, although I know that isn't what you were saying.

 

i think Harada was a bit green in that fight' he tried to steamroll Medel who with all his experience and big punch started catching him with big shot's off the ropes. Harada didn't know where he was but he came back a better fighter for it.

 

Jofre had trouble cutting weight, but even wasn't too past his prime. In-fact he came back several years and proved that he was good as ever.

Fighting Harada not only had the style to win but was also tough and one of the greatest boxers ever.

 

Have a look at the second fight. I had it close and Medel had him rocking in the 15th.
Bit of a dilemma Medel. To me he seemed like one of those top fighters who had maybe a journeyman mentality.

 

Agreed.

Jofre's record is sensational. Dominated the bantams for 8 years until Harada beat him twice, both times narrowly. Then went 10 years undefeated as a feather including the scalps of Saldivar & Legra (admittedly both well past prime).

That's gotta put him in the mix with Oliveras, Zarate and Harada. But IMO Oliveras comes first - will never forget his power in the win against Rose.

 

Harada set the record straight in the rematch from what I've heard. Medel, however, was an excellent fighter in his own right who was unlucky to come along alomg in such a stacked era. Jofre's powers of recovery were very much in evidence against him.