Of course was Mason underrated, even today some people still saying that he was just a big and pysical strong fighter, who just fought bums in UK, but he had potential and was a real threat for a eilte HW. He was a strong puncher, had a big size, and a good chin. Biggs was at least in shape when he fought Lewis, not like Dokes when he fought Ruddock...
Dokes was considered a contender, Biggs was not, you are using hindsight again.... Mason was very ordinary. He was a clubbing puncher who although looking good at British and European level, started to struggle when he met the decent American journeymen. He seemed to be on the way to losing the Biggs fight, before for some reason Biggs just gave up... I went to see it and it was wierd. Mason did show a lot of heart and a good chin when he fought Lewis. I went to that fight as well and I was the only one amongst my mates to pick Mason, they all saw the flaws in him. I liked Gary Mason he was an honest pro, but he lacked the snap in his punches to take anyone out inside the top 25 in the world, and although his heart and chin were sound, his technique, conditioning and defence were limited and if he had met any other top 20 fighter he would of gone out on his shield, but he would of lost.
At the time Dokes, with hindsight it would of been close but Dokes to win in a painfully close stinker. Remember Dokes was still in the glow of the excellent Holyfield effort. Ironically the similar glow Ruddock had after the Tyson defeats. Tyrell, although the next big thing in 1986, was damaged goods in 1991, comming off the Tyson fight; his battle with his demons; defeats to Damiani, Mason and the brave effort against Bowe.
OK, from watching their fights at that time I would take Biggs, but OK, we have 2 different opinions here...
Tony Ayala Jr. He appeared to be the real goods and wound up spending about 16 years in jail. After that, he came back and still looked pretty good for a while. I cant say "The most wasted talent ever", but we will never know his full potential.
Ruddock didnt look to shot to me in Morrison fight..It took one of Morrison's massive lefthooks to change the outcome of that fight... Dont get me wrong mate im a huge Tyson fan and feel what your saying bout mike not fullfilling his potential.. He will go down as the biggest dissapointment in sports history. Have to throw Morrisons name down as a wasted talent aswell. HIV positive at 26...You dont get that by clean living...I remember Bill clayton among others saying how Tommy's lifestyle made Tyson look like a buddist monk. Spoke to a bloke who bounced at a few clubs tommy used to go to in the early 90's...Said he had to kick him out once as he was banging two broads in the male toilets. I remember reading a interview with Morrison where he claimed to of banged over 2000 bitches...Talk about tommy gunn... He crammed a shitload in before he was 26....
How much farther could Hector have taken his career? We already saw the best of Camacho as he ruled the lower divisions in the 1980's
Marvis Frazier? I'm afraid he doesn't fall into the catagory of wasted talent. He just didn't belong with top competition. he was only 10-0 when his brave father put him in with holmes and had to retire in 1986 before he got hurt again.
You sure he retired in 86? Don't forget Tyson, who raped the guy compared to Holmes. That uppercut came from hell.
Correct. That was one helluva mashing, Mike just pounced straight from the opening bell. Caution to the wind, he threw a few jabs and then just opened up. 20-odd seconds later after a barrage of hooks uppercuts and bodyshots it was all over. Devestating stuff. :good