OSCAR : Mayweather is a vulnerable fighter

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  1. Bazooka

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    it was the feet, Floyd likes to use those Jordans the Rjj style shoe, and honestly those have a thicker sole on them, and on the canvas they grip very good almost to good if you ask me, and I think thats exactly what happend here.
     
  2. ST33L-DUTCH

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    Mayweather landed 207 of 481 punches (43 percent).
    De La Hoya landed 122 of 587 (21 percent)

    So i guess DLH had a easy time landing against PBF
     
  3. Bazooka

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    who do you think won Trinidad De La Hoya?
     
  4. ST33L-DUTCH

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    DLH won that fight and the 2nd mosely fight IMO
     
  5. NALLEGE

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    Because Don King paid the judges off!
     
  6. IntentionalButt

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    If you look back I actually dissected the fatal flaws in Floyd's game shortly after the Oscar fight. Oscar wasn't able to capitalize as he had his own idea of how to beat Mayweather firmly set in his head and was wearing horse blinders, but there are some key Achilleus heels if you know where to look. ;) They were right in front of Oscar, literally. I can certainly see him watching tape and kicking himself. Especially now that he's certifiably finished (bloodied by Forbes, stopped by Pacquiao, schooled by Shaqiao...)
     
  7. boxsensei

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    One of the biggest myths going around is that Osar was controlling the fight with the jab. BS. Look at the tape in slo motion, and you can see that alot of those jabs hit Mayweather's shoulder or just plain missed, but becasue it was happening at full speed, and because Mayweather as a tendency to bend back real fast at the waist out of the way a lot of people thought that Oscar was doing something. Hell people were screaming for every punch Oscar threw. Oscar got a boxing lesson that night from the smaller man.
     
  8. Bazooka

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    Okay now I am going to ask you this Sensei~ Why do you think those jabs hit Floyds shoulder?
    I will tell you exactly why, Oscar wanted them to, Floyds left hand is at his waste, and that cross over style a way you break through that is to hit Floyd on that left shoulder, it keeps him from countering with the hook, and it squares him up when the shot lands leaving him open to score.

    This is also what Chris Byrd did to Holyfield and to Vitali Klitschko, once you start jabbing that left shoulder pretty much you create openings to score your shots.

    Even Mayweathers Daddy after the fight said he thought Oscar won the fight, nobody has explained that most Floyd fans say it was out of hate, but come on your own son? who does that?
     
  9. boxsensei

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    The jab hit the shoulder because Mayweather had it up high for protection. Your analysis sounds good except thats not what happened. Oscar didn't break threw Floyd's defense or open him up for anything. He was missing badly. To Oscar's credit though, he picked off a respectable number of Floyd's shots on his gloves, but he still got caught with a number of precision shots, but due to Oscar being the larger man and his excellent chin it didin't really seem to faze him except he almost went down in the 5th.

    As for Mayweather Sr.'s comment, 1st you have to remember that he made these comments while he and his son were still estarnged and had a bad relationship. Oscar hired roach to train him and his son didnt want him in his corner either. Im sure he was very bitter so you can't really look to him for honest commentary.

    Second you have to remember that he was sitting in the stands so his view of the action was probably not good enough to accurately see what was going on. If i remeebr correctly all he said he could see was that Oscar was being aggresive.

    Regardless of what mayweather sr. said, Oscar had ineffective agrression while Mayweather showed excellent defene and hit him with clean shots. All of that adds up to 9-3 or 8--4 Mayweather win.
     
  10. JL Fighter

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    Agree.
     
  11. Bazooka

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    Watch around the 350 mark and DLHs jab is not the only thing that was going to win him the fight he was scoring good body shots, and from round 2 through round 10 Lampley, Merchant and Stewart were all talking about what a good job oscar was doing deflecting Floyds shots Merchant said this about Floyd "Not much is getting through" and he was right not much did get through and the compu box numbers IMO are way off, Floyd did not score that many shots over DLH.
    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EipYCBB9OVE&feature=PlayList&p=BA48CDA37CC7C831&index=8[/url]
     
  12. Scar

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    Hope Marquez doesn't fall for the "no power" comment like Hatton did.
     
  13. boxsensei

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    First of all I never pay much attention too what the commentators say because a lot of times they are extremely biased. They didnt' say a word when mayweather staggered DLH with back to back right hands off the ropes.

    Read my post. I gave DLH credit for picking off some of mayweather's shots, but he still got hit with a good number of them. Oscar also was getting credit for flailing away at Mayweather even though Mayweather rolled and blocked most of them. Mayweather won this fight easy. Oscar was aggressive butit was ineffective cause he wasn't landing. Mayweather was sharper and more efficient. No he didnt dominate Oscar, but he boxed to a clear decision win and the only reason most people dont acknowledge it is either becasue of lack of understanding about boxing, hatred, or both.
     
  14. Hatesrats

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    The realest thing Mayweather has said on 24/7 sofar is.. "If I hurt you, I will finish you"

    I think team JMM has already made up their mind that PBF has the punch in this fight & will respect May's punch. They won't be coming face first like Hatton.

    The one thing ODLH fails to do when he say's these guy's ain't "Puncher's" ect.. is that most fighter's don't have GB's chin. (He sell's his chin short)
     
  15. Scar

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    100% agree there. DLH's chin is iron and always was. The man took punches from all and still kept coming and never KO'd from a punch to the chin.

    The punch Pac landed in round 1 which buckled Oscar, I swear if a similar punch lands on Cotto he will be on the canvas. DLH's chin is very underrated.