Can Taylor get a fair decision in Germany?

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  1. RJJ4Life

    RJJ4Life Active Member Full Member

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    HAHAHA

    wow Seranta.. you'd really defend Arthur Abraham and Mikkel Kessler as legit, and defame Roy Jones JR? Start a poll on this site. Ask who the better fighter was.. who fought better competition, whatever.. you'll be proven wrong my friend.

    I don't mean to **** on your countrymen. I like them both, but until they fight legit competition, it's hard to take them serious. I mean give me 3 respectable name fighters Kessler has fought besides Calzaghe?

    Jones Jr. fought"

    James Toney (undefeated and top 2 pound 4 pound at the time

    Bernard Hopkins (only fighter to convincingly beat Bernard)

    Antonio Tarver (beat him the first time)

    Montell Griffin (top contender in the division for a decade)

    Virgil Hill (borderline hall of famer)

    Julio Cesar Gonzalez (the same guy who gave Dairuz Michelczeski his only lose)

    Joe Calzaghe
     
  2. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    Kessler and Abraham are in the middle of their chareer, not at the end like RJJ. At that stage of RJJs chareer his resume (in my oppinion) was not better than Abrahams and worse than Kesslers.

    Sidenote: I don´t want to discredit him (actually I like RJJ) but this "protected euro bum" blabla gets on my nerves....
     
  3. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    good post the only thing i will say is it is not only european fighters that stay at home.also if AA fought a prime jones at supermiddle does anyone seriously think that AA would even win a round
     
  4. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Exactly. Taylor got his share of gifts. If he's on the short end of a close decision, it would be poetic justice for how Hopkins got screwed by HBO.:yep
     
  5. RJJ4Life

    RJJ4Life Active Member Full Member

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    Seranta.. I do apologize for using the derrogatory "euro bums" term. I can respect your point of view. I like both fighters, but Kessler especially has to step up his level of competition or compete at all!!

    thankfully he's fighting tomorrow and in the tournament. The Super 6 will truly write the book On Kessler's career. If he has a good run, he will shake the critics who say he aint fight nobody (however, some haters will always say fighters never fight anybody)
     
  6. pngo

    pngo #1Contender Full Member

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    In the past the US was the place you HAD to go to become the best fighter and get the big fights. That's why foreign fighters needed to go there.
     
  7. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    You got me cold.

    Until some seconds ago I thought you are just one of those "myfighteristhebestandanyonewhosayssomethingdifferentwillbeflamed" but that posting actually proves that you are different.

    I agree with you that Kessler has to fight more world class boxers now as Abraham has to. But Kesslers resume isn´t that bad in the past but the last years were a bit of a letdown because of his promoter Palle. As for Abraham I believe him that he wanted to fight the best at MW but didn´t get the opportunity (for whatever reason). They both had the balls to enter the super-six. Emagine what a tournament in the 90s with boxers like RJJ, Calzhage, Hops, Toney, Ottke, Michalczewski, Rocchigiani... would have been like :deal
     
  8. K-Man

    K-Man Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Chambers just won a not so wide fight with Universums last heavyweight with title chances in Dimitrenko, on points. So why should it be "impossible" "because it's in germany" ? The Reid bull**** gets on my nerves, it was the only fight where Ottke really had to be carried, and that one subsequently retired as a result because he didn't want to get carried until he reaches 39. "El Gallo" won a close fight against Trabant where more that one was robbed of a draw, Moorer won vs. Schulz, Hill vs. the german icon of the 90s Henry Maske, Gonzales "beat" Michalczewski throwing nothing but weak jabs backpeddling from corner to corner, Sanavia won a close decision against Beyer, and so on. It's just the trashtalk from the losing camp when their hero did not get the decision in a close fight, or often even when their hero was beaten from pillar to post just without getting stopped. Stacy Reille complained about an "early hometown stoppage" when she was beaten senseless into the ground.
     
  9. ramalinga

    ramalinga Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thank you for some sanity! There have been corrupt decisions in Germany as well as close decision against hometown fighters, just like any other place. I remember Graciano Rocchigiani schooling Chris Eubank in Berlin, even Eubanks corner thought they were losing the fight and it was scored a draw.
     
  10. paulinchen_

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  11. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    JT doesn't have to worry about being cheated in Germany. When JT wakes up, he'll be back in the states anyway.
     
  12. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    This:deal
     
  13. powerslider10

    powerslider10 New Member Full Member

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    how many times have you seen a non german get a close decsision win when fighting in germany??
     
  14. Finn73

    Finn73 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This happens everywhere...

    I don't believe that we will see any robberies. If AA really is capable of winning a lot of rounds and if there are some rounds which could be given to either man, then - of course - the decision could be in favor of AA, but I don't believe that AA can win that many rounds.
     
  15. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    The controversy will be what it always is with Taylor. While I had Taylor comfortably ahead in the Froch fight, I could EASILY understand judges giving more rounds to Froch. As I've said before, Taylor threw the 'cleaner' punches, Froch threw the 'effective' punches. Taylor looks prettier, but in the end, damage counts. I could easily see AA doing double the damage per punch compared to Taylor. How do you score it? Double damage accumulates much faster if you are the one getting hit.