Jiu-Jitsu in 1905

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by cross_trainer, Sep 17, 2009.


Page 1 of 2
  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

    12,906
    6,248
    Jun 30, 2005
    Just found this on Youtube. Enjoy.

    [YT]eALLe1wghSA[/YT]
     
    cross_trainer, Sep 17, 2009
    cross_trainer, Sep 17, 2009
    #1
  2. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

    13,685
    350
    May 25, 2007
    You truly are a constant blessing at EastSide. I've always enjoyed your findings in the classic forum, and am glad to see you frequenting this forum.
     
    rekcutnevets, Sep 17, 2009
    rekcutnevets, Sep 17, 2009
    #2
  3. Goose

    Goose Russian oligarch Full Member

    8,207
    5,565
    Mar 2, 2005
    amazing stuff dude!!!
     
    Goose, Sep 17, 2009
    Goose, Sep 17, 2009
    #3
  4. slugger408

    slugger408 Member Full Member

    150
    1
    May 2, 2009
    bad ass
     
    slugger408, Sep 17, 2009
    slugger408, Sep 17, 2009
    #4
  5. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

    20,005
    7
    Mar 8, 2007
    Kano (Kodokan) Judo no doubt about it. Nothing came out of Japan til Kano emerged.
     
    chimba, Sep 17, 2009
    chimba, Sep 17, 2009
    #5
  6. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

    12,906
    6,248
    Jun 30, 2005
    Most of it, definitely, but Yukio Tani (who came with Uyenishi) also studied Tenshin Shinyo Ryu. Barton-Wright himself, who imported these guys, learned Shinden Fudo Ryu during his time in Japan. Then you have to add the wrestling influences that came from so many challenge matches and practicing with Armand Cherpillod.

    There was a lot of eclecticism going on at that time.
     
    cross_trainer, Sep 17, 2009
    cross_trainer, Sep 17, 2009
    #6
  7. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

    18,550
    5
    Jun 10, 2007
    Thank you!
     
    sugarngold, Sep 17, 2009
    sugarngold, Sep 17, 2009
    #7
  8. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

    20,005
    7
    Mar 8, 2007
    Frankly, I never knew of these "ronin" practicioners, interesting since they all have seem to have been imported by this guy Barton. I truly wonder if they are real hard men or masters of the art.

    During the same time , even earlier, Kano was dispatching his top 5 students including Maeda (Gracies teacher) to spread Judo to the world but these guys can be traced by ranks from the kodokan and real badasses with ties to ambassadors and govt. officials
     
    chimba, Sep 17, 2009
    chimba, Sep 17, 2009
    #8
  9. rusty nails

    rusty nails Tszyu for PM!! Full Member

    6,300
    10
    Jun 20, 2008
    it looks like its being performed on a wooden floor!
     
    rusty nails, Sep 17, 2009
    rusty nails, Sep 17, 2009
    #9
  10. Mazallan

    Mazallan ESB yes man Full Member

    7,522
    0
    Jun 25, 2009
    Great vid.
     
    Mazallan, Sep 18, 2009
    Mazallan, Sep 18, 2009
    #10
  11. One Punch KO

    One Punch KO Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,934
    0
    Mar 14, 2009
    I am also of this opinion.
     
    One Punch KO, Sep 18, 2009
    One Punch KO, Sep 18, 2009
    #11
  12. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

    12,906
    6,248
    Jun 30, 2005
    It's a tricky question. The Kodokan sent a representative to Britain who defeated Tani in straight jiujitsu. On the other hand, Tani was doing hundreds of challenge matches against local wrestlers in music halls (and I believe a few boxers as well), some of whom had studied Taro Miyake's book on jiujitsu and knew a little bit about what to expect. Very few people lasted the full fifteen minutes with him without getting submitted.

    You can read about it here:

    http://ejmas.com/jalt/jaltart_Noble_1000.htm
     
    cross_trainer, Sep 18, 2009
    cross_trainer, Sep 18, 2009
    #12
  13. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

    12,906
    6,248
    Jun 30, 2005
    And thanks for the compliments, everybody. :D
     
    cross_trainer, Sep 18, 2009
    cross_trainer, Sep 18, 2009
    #13
  14. SMOKIN JAY

    SMOKIN JAY New Member Full Member

    56
    0
    Dec 5, 2007
    **** and here was me think i founded jj
     
    SMOKIN JAY, Sep 18, 2009
    SMOKIN JAY, Sep 18, 2009
    #14
  15. MattMattMatt

    MattMattMatt Guest

    Awesome! It may sounds strange to say this, but I was suprised that it looks practically identical to the techniques I was taught early on in Ju-Jitsu, I don't know why I expected anything to be different! Good stuff.
     
    MattMattMatt, Sep 18, 2009
    MattMattMatt, Sep 18, 2009
    #15
Page 1 of 2