PAC can still beat Floyd. Heres why.

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  1. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    While Floyd was his usual self... some points

    1. JMM really looked sluggish out there at the post fight interview he stated that he could have used more fights at 140 or above that the weight was tough. I mean Baldomir performed better than Juan. JMM is also starting to get old.

    2. Floyds power is non existent at these weights.. He threw an uppercut with his whole ****in body that caught JMM flush and JMM was merely stunned by it. Watch the replay, Floyds feet was off the ground delivering that punch and wasnt seriously hurt.

    3. Diaz hit JMM with just as much left hook as Floyd did. Floyds % was just higher. PAc as reckless as he is sometimes is never known to be prone to the lead left.

    4. That potent over the top right by JMM was basically nullified by Floyds. Floyds short side is his left side when he leans back. Pacs left straight is still a valid argument if tehy fight.

    Now in saying that, skillwise Floyds as great as anyone in history with a few exceptions and with the weight and reach advantage towards JMM and Pac, its huge. His jab can be potent given the reach advantage.

    Id give PAc a 40% chance in this fight..It wont be a walkover.
     
  2. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    :good

    i gave pac 1% chance to beat oscar. :yep
     
  3. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    did you see the post fight. They asked JMM the question how he sees Pac/JMM..He just said different styles
     
  4. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    seems like nobody wants to touch your thread... :lol:
     
  5. Colt_Leader

    Colt_Leader Member Full Member

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    Skill: Mayweather

    Defense: Mayweather

    Speed: Mayweather

    Power: Pac

    Hard to argue against a Floyd victory in this fight. But if there was any chance of pac winning, it would be that monster straight left that he posses. In actually, that punch is the perfect weapon against Floyd considering the way Floyd's shoulder role defense works.
     
  6. Koa

    Koa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I still think Pac needs to get past Cotto. You guys are sleeping on Cotto. :( Every time a fighter gets ahead of himself like this, blamo, he gets knocked the **** out because he loses focus and isn't working right.

    Cotto is a terrible guy to take lightly. I think the matchup is pretty even, even if they show up with their A game.
     
  7. Popshots

    Popshots Active Member Full Member

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    I have to go to work, but I have several reasons why PAC won't win. For one, look at the caliber of opponents he fights. Nothing remotely close to PBF. JMM had success with him as a counter puncher it will be an open field for PBF.
     
  8. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I'm not. This is a fight that Cotto can definitely win and one I view as a toss-up, even if I favor Pac ever so slightly.

    But I agree that Pac CAN beat Floyd. After seeing the fight last night, I have changed my view on this. I used to think Floyd would win, but something about what I saw has me leaning towards Pac now.
     
  9. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Theres no need to break it down like that. Pac Floyd is a 50 50 fight no question. Pac CAN be outboxed by a good counter puncher. Floyd is a GREAT counter puncher. BUT Pac is a southpaw with excellent speed footwork and a vicious dig. Remember those straight lefts Floyd was being caught with vs Zab? The same will happen here. Floyd needs to be prepared to eat some leather. Because if Pac fights on the front foot much like Zab did in the early rounds he will give Floyd alot of problems. The main difference is Zab is a front runner. Pac is not.
     
  10. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    PAC will/would do worse than JMM in a fight Vs. Floyd.
    May brings the counterpunching that gave Pac fit's + he will be the bigger stronger faster fighter.

    Forget about this fight, It will never happen... besides the Bobfather say's no.
    Just expect Mosley Vs. Mayweather next. (Better fight anyway IMO)
     
  11. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    pac has the tools what he needs is the right game plan to win against floyd.
     
  12. JuanMa

    JuanMa business as usual Full Member

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    Pac has advantages that would make it a more competitive fight Pac has faster hand speed throws way more punches Pac has great head movement and also hits harder than JMM and the most important factor is that he is accustomed to the weight and has carried it well unlike Marquez.
     
  13. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    PBF vs. Pac ---- Dont think so.
    Pac wont beat Cotto.
     
  14. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Pac would/will lose by K.O.
    (Besides after Cotto beat's him people will write Manny off...)

    Just like HBO did last night, talking **** about all his vic's basicaly being tainted in some way. (HBO ****ed Manny's wins big last night, Including saying JMM won both fights..)
     
  15. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    Pac will get a boxing lesson and here's why.

    1. He's never been in the ring with a athlete who was just as good as him or better and that's wht he gets by on. EM and JMM had skills but not the athlete that Pac was. PBF has the skills and is arguably a better athlete as well.

    2. Pac's lack of a jab an reach. If I said this once I'll say it again you won't beat a fighter like PBF without a jab it's not gonna happen. You must have a jab in order to keep PBF honest and Pac's is non existent.

    3. Pac has never seen a slick defensive-counter puncher before. He hasn't faced that style for a reason it's because he lacks the boxing game to make the necessary adjustments to beat it. Mainly a good jab, cutting off the ring and the ability to fight on the inside all of which he doesn't have.

    4. Defense Defense defense. Offense sells tickets but defense wins championships. Pac's work rate and connect % will drop against a defensive master like PBF just like everyone else does. Pac will be confused, frustrated and will start to make mistakes PBF will capitalize off of them and give him a boxing lesson. PBF is a hard fighter to hit let alone cleanly. PBF will land the harder cleaner shots ans win by wide UD.