I can see were Floyd is coming from sometimes

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Nigel_Benn, Sep 22, 2009.


  1. Nigel_Benn

    Nigel_Benn Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sure his selection of opponents havent always been the best, But think how annoyed you would be if you were a professional fighter with a gifted skillset whos won every professional fight won world titles in 5 different weightclasses and you had the likes of Brian Kenny and Larry Merchant always dismissing you because you aint "exciting enough" and dont want to have slugfests everyfight and get beat up the whole time.
     
  2. Capri

    Capri Member Full Member

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    people have evert excuse in the book on why floyd won.....JMM was his most dangerous to date until he came in 2lbs heavier...then he was the bigger fighter and should pick on ppl his own size......
    if floyd fought the top three MMA haevywieghts in one night and beat them all convincinly...ppl would still have an excuse
     
  3. heatman

    heatman Fight Game Connoisseur Full Member

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    Good Point. At the same time that they discredit you, they overcredit someone for beating fighters that you have already beaten.

    I would always go for a win over an exciting slugfest which I may lose, thats jst me. They only really want him to lose so they'll always find things to pick at to discredit his achievments.

    Real Talk. I think it takes more discipline and focus to ignore all criticism and the crowd and all other outside influences to stick to a winning gameplan. Thats something I have always amired Floyd and B-Hop for.They dont care what you think they are leaving with what they came for
     
  4. cmkb

    cmkb Member Full Member

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    You may not not have realized this but he was bigger BEFORE the 2 extra lbs.. those lbs were just the straw that broke the camels back.

    Nobody is asking him to fight heavyweights, just the fighters in his division (welterweight). I don't think that is hard to grasp.
     
  5. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its very simple in his case, of he wasn't the arrogant man proclaiming to be the best ever, he wouldn't get the same reaction..He would have detractors but not as strongly as right now.

    The best from the past always went after big challenges, Floyd doesn't look for the biggest challenge to put his awesome skills to the test..
     
  6. Devintea

    Devintea Active Member Full Member

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    Your point is not valid. He already fought the top welterweight belt holders during his time at Welterweight (prior to retirement). Zab Judah and Carlos Baldomir. Both were dangerous and capable of knocking Floyd out. Yet, he was the undisputed champion at Welterweight then. Now that he fight only two fights at a catch weight, he is supposedly cherrypicking smaller guys?
    If that is the case, then Hagler, Leonard and Ali were cherry pickers also.
     
  7. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Excellent point. Those 2 pounds just secured it. I wish Marquez called the fight off just to prove a point. Completely unprofessional.
     
  8. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    You're an idiot.
    You sound like someone who wants to defend Floyd in the face of obvious discrediting evidence.
    Floyd is an amazing boxer, but everyday fans don't care, and those are the fans he aims for. People like you don't interest him. You can defend him 1,000 times... guess what... He doesn't care, he wants money and PPV numbers, not fans who respect him.
     
  9. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hmmm.....I think what frustrates people about Floyd is the fact that an immensely talented guy who would beat nearly everyone out there...still doesn't seem to want to fight the best at 147. But I feel all that's about to change now though, he knows that he'll have to beat Mosely, Cotto and Pac to finally fulfill his legacy.

    Another thing that may sound contraversial, but I think is brutally true to an extent....is if Floyd was a white fighter, he'll be getting all the credit in the world from experts and pundits. How in the **** can people willingly accept Joe Calzaghe's ATG status, but question Floyd's...? I don't mean to play the race card, but Floyd to an extent is right when bring these issues up.
     
  10. war4years

    war4years Well-Known Member Full Member

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    there's not too many in and around 147 who floyd wouldn't be favored over. why does he have to fight blown up featherweights?
     
  11. Bobby Heenan

    Bobby Heenan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    im a floyd fan/supporter

    but do you honestly believe floyd cares bout the everyday diehard boxing fan? because those are the type of fans i see on message boards everywhere shitting on him for not taking the "biggest challenges" out there and for not fighting "real welters"....

    every guy who comes on esb(and alot of other message boards) and shits on pbf could not buy his next ppv...and i guarantee hes still taking home the same type of paycheck....yer saying that floyd wants money and ppv numbers....well thats why he went on dancing with the stars and the wwe...for crossover appeal...to appeal to the casual fan...

    you might wanna rethink your statement....you say floyd aims for the everyday fan...yet he doesnt want respect from fans...kinda ******ed
     
  12. Imperial1

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    Look Larry Merchant likes a brawl ..Thats why his favorite fights are Gatti Ward ..Can't put too much into what he thinks ..Floyd style doesn't entertain the old whino ..


    And Max well his favorite fighter is Pernell Whitiker I could see why he wouyld want Floyd to step up when their are always so many comparisons ..But at the end of the day its Floyd's career it doesn't take Larry and Max to point out what the man can do and could do .

    Picking on a smaller fighter is not rockert science ..This is why he gets so scrutinized !
     
  13. los507

    los507 Active Member Full Member

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    i just think its a shame that as great as floyd is, he isn't willing to fight the top welterweights and truly put his skillz to the test. I'm a cotto fan all the way, but i believe floyd coult beat ANY welterweight, just a shame he's not willing to try.
     
  14. leighton

    leighton Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Money is the best out there. Show any young fighter a dvd on Money and it is a lesson of the best defence in years and fast combinations he is class and took apart Marquez. As for not getting the respect he deserves I would back that up. He dismantled Ricky Hatton and others in the ring. On form he is untouchable.
    As for Mossley I like him but he wouldn't be able to live with Mayweather and it will be 1 sided Mossley is on the slip now a real test with Money will be the end of him but it will be made for the end of the year. Pacman dont want anything to do with Money if Cotto beats Pacman it sets up a huge clash and Mayweathers real test against Cotto he will push Money all the way. Only time will tell but I cant wait to see Money back in the ring again.