Translating Floyd Mayweather Jr Vs Juan Manuel Marquez

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The only reason JMM's feet looked slow was because Mayweather's jab kept him off balance.

Hard to work when someone keeps sticking their glove in your mouth.

 

Floyd also lost speed with added pounds...Have seen his fights at 130? Floyd is just faster plain and simple...

 

True...Flody is faster at the lower weights as well but it's more of an even playing feild, ya know. The power for Juan is better, better foot work, better reflexes overall everyting is better for JMM. Where as at 144 it was NOT an accurate account for what Juan is capable of. Sure the fight would be the same outcome but it wouldn't be as one sided IMHO.

Styles do make fights which is why I'd never favor JMM over FLoyd but I still KNOW that he is capable of .

 

Ricky never led in the fight with Floyd cause he didnt really land punches...not scoring punches. Rick 1 round...just because he swarmed Floyd the whole round...He didnt really land any significant punches tho

 

Dumbest **** I ever heard...Floyd is 1 inch taller than Marquez...You think Floyd fighting a fighter who is 6 inches taller who outweighs him by 20-30 lbs pounds is equivilant?

 

You said it right! Agree..:bbb:bbb

 

Again... Do you really think Floyd would fight at 135 again?? :-( Floyd would've been drained at 135. Can probably make 140 with no problem but I doubt he can make 135 ever again.

 

People are sayin that Floyd would of done the same thing to Marquez at 130 or 135 due to Floyds superior speed. No doubt Floyd would be faster at any weight, but the thing is at the higher weight where Floyd has been campaining and still came in bigger than expected, Marquez couldn't risk taking shots to get his combos in like in the lower weights. That's the big differance.

Like against Diaz, Casa, and Pac, Marquez would risk taking shots from time to time to get his combinations in there. If he would of fought Floyd at these weights, he would of taken more chances. I'm not sayin' he would of beat Floyd, just sayin he would of been far more competitive.

 

Agreed. the weight difference was irrelevant in this fight so dominant skillswise was Floyd. Floyd would whip the crap out of a plodder like Cotto, and would also have little trouble with even Moseley or Pacman

 

I give up...Floyde doesnt even have2 fight but he wins

 

Too much weight too quickly?
He weighed in 7 pounds more than he did for the Diaz fight 7 MONTHS previously,if anything if he could have came in a couple of pounds heavier, to make it more competitive.
Considering he probably weighed about 140 the night he fought Diaz,it makes you wonder how hard he rtried to put in weight. Did he have a good weights program? Maybe if he had protein shakes twice a day rather than drinking his own ****,he might have put on more muscle.

 

Correction, at a lower weight PBF would be weight drained to hell and hardly able to throw a punch.

Guy couldn't even make 144lbs, didn't you hear?

 

Why can't people get that these two fighters were never meant to fight each other. The only way they can be compared is a p4p basis.

Marquez prime weight was at 126. He fought there at the elite level until about 33/34 years old. He only had 3 fights at 130 at the championship level and 2 fights at 135 at the championship level and one fight at 144. He didn't move up in weight because he was struggling to stay at 126. Instead he forced himself to move up to take on bigger challenges and get his revenge on Pac. Marquez is a naturally smaller man.

Mayweather prime weight was probably at 135/140 because of his age and championship experience level. FMJ moved up from 130 weight at about age 24/25; because he was still growing and had the larger frame to do so. Even though both fighters fought at 130 Mayweather has much more experience at that weight than Marquez. It would have been a 24 year old versus a 34 year old. Could hardly call that a prime for prime match.

Most fighters build skills based on their body-type. A fighter who is slow, short and stocky will generally have to adapt into a pressure fighter to get on the inside to hit their opponent. A defensive fighter relies on being rangier, quicker, and lighter. Mayweather and Marquez are both counter-punchers meaning they both relay on being rangier, lighter and quicker. Mayweather's light weight is heavier than Marquez light weight.

So yes the size made a difference. Marquez had to add weight to make Mayweather respect his power, but unfortunately slowed down too much because of it. The extra weight slowed down his foot movement, his head movement, and his punches. If he would have tried moving how he normally does he would have gassed out.

In a prime for prime p4p match Marquez would have been light on his feet, used more head movement, would have had competitive speed and timing***. Timing being the key here because it was Marquez best asset as a counter-puncher. Remember, lesser figthers such as Chavez, Castillo, and Judah have given Mayweather much more trouble than the old heavy version of Marquez. Considering that Mayweather would have still been rangier and quicker he would still have the advantage, but the outcome would have been more likely a split decision.

 

It goes both ways, can't say its Floyds 4th division and that's the reason it would've been more of a slaughter at 130lbs. WW is Floyds current division and JMM doesnt even belong at 135, he's a 130/125lbs fighter, period.

I see Floyd beating him at 130lbs, but the added pounds definitely helped to Floyds advantage.

JMM had months to adapt to 147, Floyd had 4 years. That's the big difference, and Floyd obviously didn't lose as much going up as JMM did.