**Saturday Taylor vs. Pavlik: Questions and answers...**

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Orishaman, Sep 27, 2007.


  1. zivic1941

    zivic1941 Member Full Member

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    Re-read the post.
     
  2. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    That Carl Williams like jab will be the key to victory IMO for Jermain...without a doubt...stiff jab on Pavliks right eye for 7 rounds....Pavlik will have vision problems...
     
  3. zivic1941

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    Come out, get respect, and then lure Pavlik in. I think that's key. Putting extra weight on that back foot instead of leaning forward is very important as well. Gives him a better base of balance and makes him less vulnerable to Pavlik's right hand.

    Pavlik can grind at a high punch output in a rough war. That 7 rounds against Miranda is more than equivalent to most 12 rounds fights. I think if Pavlik has any issue with stamina it might be related to weight drain---we'll see...both guys might have an issue there---or perhaps being a little tight under the bright lights of a major title fight. Taylor has been to the big dance, and should be comfortable mentally. As you know, Orish, sometimes being relaxed in that ring makes all the difference with stamina.
     
  4. mormeckflex

    mormeckflex New Member Full Member

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    My blood is boiling waiting for this fight!!!
     
  5. jsimps

    jsimps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pavlik's is under-rated whens it comes to working the body. I think could be a huge difference in slowing JT down. I could see KP classically working the body early, setting him up for a late KO. If Pavlik has gotten any better at slipping punches, JT is in trouble.
     
  6. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    Probably the most important advantage for Jermain, we all know how tight breading can be when you are not relax inside the ring!!:good
     
  7. zivic1941

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    No. Hopkins is not a big puncher at all....especially late in his career. The shot he got Tarver with was a balance shot where Hopkins got Tarver's feet in the perfect position to knock him down. Bernard has always been smart, but he's become more of a thinking man's fighter as he's gotten older.

    Pavlik is a dangerous fighter because of his power, but he's a much less reactive fighter than Jeff Lacy. He can adapt in the ring, and do different things.
     
  8. zivic1941

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    Duran, Archie Moore....examples of guys who were super relaxed. Relaxed, set traps, and wore younger fighters down with their mind instead of their conditioning.
     
  9. zivic1941

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    He works the body real nice. However, I'm intrigued as to how he'll react if Taylor goes to his body. When he decides to be, Taylor is a superb body puncher. That's what I liked a lot about him when he was coming up the ranks.
     
  10. Zakman

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    Oh, yeah, and Bernard Hopkins and Winky Wright are among the hardest P4P hitters around, right?? Jeez, Wright wasn't even a hard-hitter at junior middleweight! :patsch

    Taylor was rocked by Hopkins, and buzzed by Wright and Cory Spinks. Pavlik is going to show just HOW shaky this guy's chin is!! :yep
     
  11. jsimps

    jsimps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Avg opponents ok, but he has destroyed those avg opponents.
     
  12. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    In order to come up with this conclusion, you have to excuse all of Taylor's many deficiencies, and ignore that he hasn't won a fight against a legitimate middleweight without the benefit of an HBO gift decision, and that he can't even knock out shaky-chinned welterweights like Cory Spinks!!

    Pavlik is gonna spark this HBO hype job early - VERY early! :yep
     
  13. zivic1941

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    Once again, re-read the post. As stated, Taylor actually has a better chance of hurting Pavlik than a puncher like Miranda because of the styles mesh.

    If you think Bernard is a big puncher, god bless you. Bernard has stated himself that he's not a puncher. He sets traps, lures a fighter in, applies cumulative punishment, and usually wins a decision. Since Tito, his record is : 8-2-0 with 3 KOs. If you want to see Bernard as a puncher, go back to his earlier days.
     
  14. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    When Taylor gets knocked cold, are you going to start honoring my chin-checking abilities, or suggest that he had an "established" glass jaw - when it was people like me who established it LONG before any of you other blind mice caught on, just like with Fraudley??:lol:
     
  15. Executioner

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    are you ****ing nuts? Pavlik hits WAYY ****ing harder than Bernard right now :patsch