How do you rate Tua's chances of picking up a Title, & how does he fair against Haye?

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  1. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Tua can beat Haye but the Klitschko brothers are too difficult for him to face owing to shortness. I actually give Tua more of a chance against Vitali than I do against Wladimir. Wladimir can box from the outside all night and do Lennox Lewis V2 on Tua.

    Vitali due to his awkward style may get caught in the fight and one thing Tua does have, is ATG power in that left hand of his.

    Shane Cameron may not be a contender any time soon, but his chin was reasonably tested in his fights, the fight against Friday, he took some huge shots and kept coming, it was more so blood loss and exhaustion that caused the KO.
     
  2. stormy

    stormy Live and Learn Full Member

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    the difference between Tua and a punching is that Tua punches back......game over and lights out for Haye.:nut
     
  3. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I think he'd finish Haye in 3 rounds. It's the most obvious outcome you are likely to see in a fight that is actually between two fighters of a similar level, but such are the styles and strengths/weaknesses its just a simple prediction.

    Valuev would be a different matter, I could actually see it being relatively close. Tua would struggle to get much leverage in his left-hook such is the height difference. He'd have to rely on jabbing and hooking to the body most of the time, and hope to outwork Valuev inside. It could be quite a tough fight to win because I can't see him stopping Valuev due to the height difference, and when Tua is plodding around the ring Valuev will keep busy with his jab, his jab and work-rate are two things he has going for him.

    So yeah, he'd be virtually assured of beating Haye and would have a reasonable chance against Valuev but I'm not sure I'd make him favourite in that one. He'd be a long shot against either Klitschko.

    Only problem is, his chances of winning a title are not only about his opponent but the likeliness of actually getting any of these in the ring. I doubt David Haye would risk that type of fight, if he wanted a risky fight he'd at least want more money. Valuev maybe, but in Germany. I think he'd have to keep winning and get up there in the rankings to get himself in line for the Klitschko's, I can't see them pulling him from relative obscurity.
     
  4. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    The Valuev fight depends on what gameplan Tua went in there with. I think he could actually knock Valuev out, as one punch that people don't rate that Tua does throw well is the overhand right.

    If I was Bloodworth, in training for a Valuev fight, I'd tell him to muscle on the inside and throw hard at the body for the first few rounds. Then start to change up, go in the inside, muscle away from Valuev when he's close and deliver the overhand right (same punch that Barrett was bouncing off Valuev's head) when moving back.

    There are few guys who can knock Valuev out with one shot, I think Tua is potentially one but only if he invested in the body. Unlike Haye, Tua is unlikely to be hurt by any of the jabs Valuev throws, despite the momentum behind them - his chin is just too good.

    I think Tua beats most fighters, but the moment you're talking a Klitschko, you've got to be at least 6'4, in shape, great power and great chin.
     
  5. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think that Tua will knock Haye out. Haye's defense is not air tight so that I do not see him going the distance and winning like Byrd. Sooner or later Tua will catch him with one of his bombs and that would be the end. Haye may have some success early on. It is a good match up. I would love to see it.
     
  6. Pinhead

    Pinhead Member Full Member

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    Tua is done. Cameron is garbage.
     
  7. SAS2

    SAS2 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    haye has no boxing skill, is weak-jawed. tua destroys him
     
  8. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

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    Tua is old, fat and was always overrated anyway. He's going exactly nowhere, as with 99% of his wasted and pathetic excuse for a career. One of the biggest disgraces to the heavyweight division in the last two decades, if you ask me: until he apologises for being a fat piece of poo, the gods will always prevent him from going anywhere.

    The future does not belong to the fat and lazy.
     
  9. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not air tight is an understatement. Haye has ZERO defense.
     
  10. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Exactly. Haye so far in his VERY short career always managed to floor his opponents (at CW) just in time, even after Haye took much more punishment than necessary. He never faced a guy with a granite chin coming after him for 12 rounds.