Dirrell vs Froch is a fight I have been eagerly anticipating. I have not been this excited for a fight since Cotto fought Margarito. I made it a point to watch some of Carl Froch's Pro Fights today on DVD and I noticed a few things, good and bad So far nobody has had the speed and timing to make him pay for his mistakes, apart from Taylor who had his moment in their fight but did not follow up and finish the job he started. Pascal was a sloppy fighter who did not have the timing to do much against Froch, he was pretty much winging away with not much of an after thought. To some people on this site, they see Carl as some type of pressure fighter but he is not a pressure fighter, he is a counter puncher but he can be good on the front foot if he senses that his opponent is wiltering. He has imposed himself physically in pretty much every fight and he has eventually got the better of his opponent, albeit stationery targets for the most part. The question is can he impose himself on a fighter who can physically match him and to add on top of that someone who has more natural talent than Himself, Pascal and Taylor I see both as sloppy fighters who make alot of mistakes even for top tier fighters so the question about Dirrell not being able to hang at the top level shouldn't even be a question, I think Dirrell beats Pascal and Taylor in my opinion and all 3 fighters could be seen as sloppy at times. Here is some of the fights I ended up watching along with the things I noticed: Froch vs Pascal Froch vs Taylor Froch vs Dodson Froch vs Tatevosyan Froch vs Reid Froch vs Dartyan Froch vs Monaghan Froch vs Page Froch vs Adamu Froch vs Woolnough Froch vs Hague Froch vs Porras Froch vs Barney Froch vs Westerman Froch vs Magee Froch vs Groenewald Froch uses his jab very well to set up his opponent or to break his opponents forward momentum, it's sort of like a jab that is thrown with a purpose of distraction so that he can throw a straight right or uppercut when his opponent is in range. He can be countered off that lazy type jab but the opponent has to have great timing to do it because Froch maintains good distance. When he lets his hands go he can be devastating, he is definitely heavy handed. If Froch gets you hurt I have no doubt in my mind that he is going to finish you off. He comes alive when his opponent is seriously hurt. He has slow hands but he is very explosive when he throws combinations and he has slow but thudding punches Robin Reid threw a winging overhand right in round 4 which was not the fastest punch in the world but it landed on Froch and it seemed to bother Froch and it was because he was pulling away with that left hand dangerously low. This is something that can definitely be Froch's Downfall as was shown against Taylor. Reid then later in that same round elected to wing 1 or 2 more wild overhand rights which Froch did not like so the question is, if someone can throw these punches alot faster with more power to his chin would we see Froch still standing...That question is open for debate. People on here seem to think that Carl Froch is the Terminator but we all saw what big right hands did to Margarito, another fighter who relied on his chin to save him when in trouble. Froch's best punches is undoubtedly his uppercut and his jab along with his left hooks to the body. He does not really load up the right hand but when he throws it, it is like a clubbing punch or sometimes he throws it straight. After watching Froch I have no doubt in my mind that Dirrell is going to have his own way in there, Froch has never been in the ring with anybody even close to Dirrell in terms of talent. Taylor and Pascal were credible opponents but Pascal at that time was an up and coming prospect aswell and he had not fought anybody before he fought Froch, nearly being knocked out against an opponent in Omar Pittman and similarly Froch never fought anybody before he fought Pascal, Jermain Taylor had a good CV but he was definitely a man trying to regain his confidence and Froch in all honesty was quite fortunate that Taylor was not a smarter and also fitter fighter on that night. Froch would not have won that fight. Taylor elected to stand infront of Froch to trade when he did not need to and so did Pascal, difference being Pascal was more trickier to time but once Taylor started to tire is the more he became a stationery target. Bottom line is Dirrell will box his way to an easy victory with a stoppage being on the cards. Froch is not going to show Dirrell anything he hasn't already seen. Froch has heavy hands but Froch needs to be in range to throw them and if Froch chooses to play the pressure fighter he will get beat to the punch each and everytime. It's like trying to compare Usain Bolt to Johnathan Edwards, the difference in speed is going to be very apparent from the get go. Thoughts !!!
It was actually a very good and accurate assessment until you kind of spoilt it(and your credibility) by predicting a Dirrell win. One thing you did miss though is that Froch has SUPREME CONFIDENCE,more so than in almost any other British fighter I've known. He does not doubt himself one little bit and this is a very underrated attribute
i think saying froch has never been in with anyone as talented as dirrell is unfair on taylor. Taylor is a very skilled fighter, regardless of who did get the wins we're talking about a guy who competed well against b-hop and winky, 2 of the smartest fighters about. Taylor was and is a very good technical fighter and certainly more proven than dirrell, but he was ahead on the cards before the last round with carl which bodes well for andre. so comparing this to the taylor fight, dirrell my lose a couple more rounds, but is probably less likely to tire. As a result the fight is completely in the balance for me and will depend heavily of who is best prepared for the end rounds both in conditioning and workin the body of their opponent early on. Personally i'd like to see carl win because his style makes for some banging fights with the other guys later in the tourney.
I see Froch as a high pressure fighter...it wasnt so obvious in the fight against Jermain Taylor coz Taylor was able to back him off with good punches and that made Froch box in a less aggressive way. I just dont see him as a counter puncher..sorry he is a brawler. I dont think Dirrell has the power to back off the heavy pressure Froch will put him under. I see Dirrell as the weakest boxer in the Super Six and he is nowhere near as good a boxer as Jermain Taylor. Froch wins this one on KO
Not a bad assessment of Froch but you definitely ruined it when you said that he hasn't been in with anyone close to dirrell in terms of talent. I totally disagree and cannot understand what you see in Dirrell that most don't. Dirrell doesn't have a great defence, has far less power than Taylor and Pascal appeared to have, reacts poorly under pressure and has been knocked down by lesser punchers than froch. He has never done 12 hard rounds which (if Dirrell survives that long) Froch will force him to do. Dirrell has also never had to fight in the presence of such a hostile partisan crowd and trust me it will make a difference! Dirrell will get creamed over the course of this fight.
You can point out flaws in Froch's game, but he's proved he's a dangerous fighter at world class level. Dirrell has not. Dirrell has never fought a 12 round fight, and has only once in his career fought 10 rounds. His stamina is unproven, and so is his chin. Personally i have big doubts about his ability to handle pressure. Now, Dirrell could turn out to be a quality fighter and prove me wrong, but he hasnt proved anything yet. He's looked shaky against opposition way below world class level at times. If he'd been blasting guys out left right and centre, had never really been troubled by a lower level opponent, then i could accept that he might be a dangerous fighter but that is not the case. Given that Froch has beaten top opposition and Dirrell has not, i dont see how anyone could be confidently predicting a Dirrell win.
yep this is why I hate some british fighters when they start doubting themselves and then they fold (clinton woods), but froch like you said is completely confident in his abilities and he would never believe hed lose the fight.
Froch on his day will beat any boxer out there that doesn't have the ability to take a good shot, fight a full twelve and keep Froch honest with good punching himself. He'll never beat an elite fighter, but you know what his style is - balls to the wall, I'll hit you, you hit me and let's see what happens. Very similar to Gatti in a way. Kessler has a style that Froch cannot beat, but anyone else in this tournament is even money with Froch in my view.
I agree to a certain degree but because you dont see the talent in Dirrell that is waiting to explode on the big stage then you would not see him as talented as maybe Taylor for instance, You make good points against which I have to agree with but I am definitely sticking my neck out on the line on this one even walking a tight rope to predict that Dirrell will turn alot of heads during this fight. There is no denying that Froch is a beast and he is tough as they come, very tough but something tells me that I dont think he will be able to handle the incoming on this occassion, no doubt he will be getting hit by a guy who will be landing at will in my opinion but I guess we have to wait for all to unfold. If Froch does win I am quite happy to eat humble pie and I would have to get behind Froch to win the whole tournament if he was able to pull of the victory against Dirrell. I can also see Dirrell going into a shell aswell but I dont think he is going to miss the opportunity to shine on the big stage and to add, both men are hungry, lots of trash talk has been happening and both are predicting KO's so we as fans cannot be disappointed win, lose or draw because boxing wins in the end, it is just a shame that one of our fighters have to lose.
I spoke with Carl a few days before the Taylor fight and it was frightening just how confident he was.He KNEW he was going to win, whilst Taylor THOUGHT he would win. The difference was very noticeable
yes on paper, all of those tourney contenders can box froch off, but Froch always has his power & finds a way to win.. The only and best way to beat froch is to try and knock him out early, which is quite out of the ordinary...Biiiiitch!!!!
I just can't see Dirrell avoiding Froch's 'heavy artillery' for a full 12 rounds. He's going to get caught and he's going to go down......I'm absolutely sure of it. Add in home-town advantage twinned with Froch's rock-solid confidence and it looks more and more like being a bad night for Dirrell. Froch by KO rds 6-9