Floyd's illusion of greatness and it's impact

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by LukeO, Oct 9, 2009.


  1. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Whenever I see an interview with Floyd and he even mentions being great or the greatest, it's often when he brings up having never lost, and that there is no blueprint to beat Floyd Mayweather. I think this is the mentality souring boxing and all of it's young prospects. The 'you're only as good as your record' mentality.
    Floyd is mistaking not losing for not being able to lose.
    I don't know how many of you used to be WWF fans as kids, or could even watch it as WWE now, but you may remember the jobber. The guy who made the Undertaker look bigger and badder. The guy who lost to the 'marquee' wrestlers. The guy who never had an offensive move. This is what I think of when I see Friday Night Fights, or PPV undercards(some main events). I see one guy who we all know is going to win take on someone we all know is going to lose. No one gets better, but the record gets bigger. The emphasis on the prospects record has got to be taken away.
    Every great boxer has lost a match.
    Marciano is not Sugar Ray Robinson, that probably can even be a considered an insulting comparison. I think we should change the term of unbeaten prospect to simply be 'unchallenged prospect' and more vocally voice our displeasure with gift decisions/bad matchups/cherry picking.
    I don't know what the answer is and I don't know how to convince any of these orginizations to reenvision their systems of creating a boxing star. I just hope i'm not the only one who is worried that we will never see prime time television boxing again.
     
  2. djm

    djm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is no answer - that's the sport and it isn't changing any time soon. Maybe send a letter/email to HBO/Showtime/ESPN, they're the only hope of change. The ABC's won't do it.

    Otherwise, I just take solace in certain situations... Eddie Chambers stepped up, lost an eliminator, kept busy, took a couple of tough fights and immediately got back in contention. Kelly Pavlik built his resume the proper way and was duly rewarded. Ward and Direll are taking huge steps up (probably wishing they were better prepared right now, but doing it).

    Chin up, it's not all doom'n'gloom.
     
  3. aaron

    aaron Active Member Full Member

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    When will people understand that Floyd's endless trash talk sells tickets & PPV's?

    Christ people, think about it !!!!!! The more **** he talks, the more people will buy a PPV hoping to see him lose. It wouldnt at all suprise me if most of the PPV sales & tickets are from Floyd haters.

    But at the end of the day..... they still pay to watch Floyd.

    I pity the foolz who just dont understand.
     
  4. dishwaser

    dishwaser Member Full Member

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    floyd as fought the best at the time get off his nuts hes p4p best right now
     
  5. ps9teacher

    ps9teacher Member Full Member

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    Nice Dishwaser! Now get back to the kitchen. When I think of "Great" Fighters I automatically think of Leonard, Duran, Benitez, Monzon, Robinson, Ali, etc/. Know what all of these guys have in common? They've ALL lost! Greatness isn't defined by an "0" in the loss column but in my best example, Leonard loses to DURAN ! He rematches him and makes him quit on the stool! That's GREAT!

    PBF is so worried about NOT losing that he makes every decision based on this fact. Why fight a Lightweight who had never fought @ Welter his entire career? Why not fight Quintana,Cintron or ANY other welterweight for that matter?

    His lack of willingness to challenge himself will relegate him to an above average fighter at best who never challenged a division that was deeper than most ,if not all, weight divisions.
     
  6. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Whenever I see a "0" I automatically think, "Here's a guy who has yet to fight anyone challenging". Sometimes it's not true, but usually it is. Anyone who is out there fighting the best, will pick up a loss along the way.
     
  7. 8count

    8count sidekick Full Member

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    people should stop caring about what sells... look for things that inspire.

    i kind of miss sports-heroes like those in basketball where they try and try until that very moment where they are at the brink of either losing or winning. that's why MJ inspired greatness even when he missed a lot of shots to win a game.

    Look up boxrec for those who are undefeated. the Zero Loss in boxing belongs to the entertainers (who get to be money-superstars yes). BUt that's as deep as it gets... entertainers.
     
  8. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    haha..yea the haters dont get that regardless of what they think this sport is a business and Floyd sells a lot by talkin his ****
     
  9. Leonard

    Leonard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree with this. Michael Jordan took on the sport of basketball and played his heart out. A great great representative of the sport. All the endorsements and huge salary came along from his desire to prove himself.