Random thoughts about last night

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  1. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Rather than post in the 100 threads already out there, I figured I'd sum my thoughts up on both Abraham-Taylor and Dirrell-Froch in one place.

    1) I severely underrated Abraham at 168 and was shocked at his upper body movement. He fought a smart, typical Abraham fight in many aspects, but he looked fresh enough to go 20 rounds last night. Most surprising to me was the lack of respect he was giving Taylor in the second half of the fight- I never thought I'd see Abraham dropping his hands that often, utilizing upper body movement to evade punches (and succeeding at it) when the turtle shell was essentially impregnable last night. He didn't have to do that to win, but it was telling of how gunshy Jermain was that even when Abraham had his hands at his hips, Jermain didn't want to throw at him. There wasn't a fight venue at the world that Abraham wouldn't have defeated Taylor last night at. I don't see Abraham missing the semifinals with how he looked last night.

    2) I almost need a new television because I was on the verge of throwing something through it watching Froch-Dirrell. I had Dirrell winning narrowly, but I'm not here to throw a ***** fit about how it ruined the super six (it didn't). This is coming from someone who's been picking Dirrell by decision for awhile,and I'll admit I was rooting for him to win this one. That doesn't eliminate my criticism of his performance though, and here it is:

    What infuriates me is that Dirrell should've won 10 rounds last night, but mixed in his fits of brilliance with some of the stupidest boxing I've ever witnessed. He should've known just dodging punches shouldn't have been enough, but yet he didn't counter three quarters of the time he made Froch miss. He should've used the left hook more.

    The worst aspect is that he never adapted his fight plan to the ref he was fighting for. Something goes wrong? Dirrell looks at the ref, all the while Froch's punching him. He jumped in (with no punches, mind you), and laid on Froch without throwing anything, all the while Froch's doing all the work in the inside. He gets mad at the ref for this, but the bottom line is he needs to realize the way the ref's calling he fight and alter his strategy (which was a dumb component of his fight plan anyways). This frustrated the hell out of me because Froch had minimal offense that Dirrell didn't hand him on a silver platter in that manner- had he kept it in the outside, Dirrell could've won this going away. Part of that has to go back to conditioning- watch the fight film, and what happens shortly after Andre stunned him late with that left hook? He flops right in on Froch, doing the exact same thing that was getting him nowhere. He was tiring in the middle rounds of the fight despite not throwing much, and still backs straight up, utilizing all foot movement and only a small amount of upper body movement- that uses more energy. Maddening.

    I hope Andre takes it as a learning experience, because there is alot of good that can come out of a loss like that. The sun's not set on him, and people need to remember there's 2 more fights for him to develop and make up for that loss. I believe he's going to.

    3) As for Froch- he's still Froch, a tough, conditioned, gutsy brawler who's there to be outboxed. When Dirrell fought smart, he was getting outboxed, and I believe he's going to be in his next two fights. Kessler's going to do to him what he did to Andrade, and I think Abraham knocks him out. That said, I was accurate in describing Froch as "truth serum" because he shows you alot about who he's fighting. This was on display in spades for the Dirrell fight, where he showed his propensity to get outboxed, but we all still got to bear witness to the current shortcomings in Dirrell's game in the process.

    Overall, it was an ugly, ugly fight. I'm disappointed Dirrell didn't get the win, but I can't say he did himself many favors; fortunately, alot of those mistakes can be fixed with experience.
     
  2. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Another sane human being. I'm glad a few of you have ventured back in today.

    Nice post Rock.
     
  3. El Borracho

    El Borracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I with you on all three.
     
  4. Smazz20

    Smazz20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Superb post. Here's big thumbs up:good
     
  5. Cool2008

    Cool2008 Member Full Member

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    Very good post, almost exactly what I thought
     
  6. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    :deal

    Nothing random about THOSE thoughts.

    Spot on !
     
  7. phierl

    phierl Active Member Full Member

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    Good reading! ... something I would like to add though is that it seemed to me Dirrell was very catious of Frochs power, and that might be the reason for him being reluctant to throw more combos. Oh, and I really didn't like the holdning either, but the guy made his debut on the big stage and he was probably very tense and excited so I definitely give him the benifit of the doubt, because he showed he could do fast and fluent combos while getting out of harms way, against a slow but aggressive dangerous Froch. The only doub I have of Dirrell is that he's gonne meet much faster and more precise fighters in his next bouts. He should be concerned, but like you Rock I believe he'll step up. This fight though probably got the fighters more hate than anything else so a repeat of this performance would be a huge concern for either...
     
  8. valdez

    valdez Grand Champ Full Member

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  9. skier47

    skier47 Guest

    Best post by far regarding that frustrating ugly mess of a prizefight. Dirrell pissed away a great opportunity for a decisive victory. Hopefully he'll learn and perform better later in the tourney. He has awesome potential.
     
  10. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Excellent points, wouldn't disagree with any of them.
     
  11. CharlieGarbs

    CharlieGarbs Guest

    Great post. I too believe Kess will do a andrade on Froch, and AA will knock him out.