If Kessler Wins The Super Six Does Calzaghe's Stock Go Up?

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  1. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    For those bashing the guy's resume. I'm by no means a huge Joe fan but it seems his stock and resume have to looked at a bit more respectably. Assuming Kessler wins his stock goes up. If it doesn't, then you're just admitting that the quality pool in the super six is low and that you're getting over-hyped about the tournament for little reason.
     
  2. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Of course it does.

    The argument against Joe (stupidly) is that he never fought and beat a world class fighter in their primes, but then this argument extends to near anyone who isn't Oscar De La Hoya or Roy Jones Jr in this era.

    Should Kessler win the Super 6, he would prove himself a world class fighter and his prime as it were, would have been during the Calzaghe loss.

    Should Kessler lose to Ward, you'll no doubt have the "See, Calzaghe sucks" band. For some reason, beating Hopkins wasn't enough.
     
  3. Quick'N'Slick

    Quick'N'Slick Active Member Full Member

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    Kessler had a busted hand in their fight so probably not
     
  4. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    He did? Funny how this wasn't said at the time.

    I know Joe had a broken hand, being that he had to take time off to let it mend after their fight, but Kessler? Seriously?

    Neither hand seemed broken when he was bouncing uppercuts off of Joe's face.
     
  5. mufasa

    mufasa New Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe also had a busted hand in a lot of fights.

    I can't understand the anti-Calzaghe types. Sure, he never fought Jones Jr or Hopkins in their prime, but he still went unbeaten, and when he did eventually fight Hopkins he won. He actually had a fight lined up with Hopkins around 2002, which Hopkins pulled out of for financial reasons. Every time Calzaghe had a fight where people doubted him, he proved them wrong.
     
  6. mike464

    mike464 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was before the fight and stopped him sparring. I think it was ok by the time of the fight.
     
  7. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    Joe's stock is already high after the Kessler fight in particular. Only the ignorant feels that Kessler winning this tourney would add to it.
     
  8. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Calzaghe had busted hands for nearly every single fight in his career, does that boost his wins ?
     
  9. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It only raises Calzaghe's stock with the ignorant, those who can observe the sport correctly realise Calzaghe is the most effective boxer there has ever been and cannot begin to regard him much higher.

    In two years everyone will realise Kessler is the P4P number 1.

    If you have anything about you at all then you should know that now.
     
  10. No10Point

    No10Point Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Neither are American so NO!
    They are complete rubish with protected lives and never fought anyone!
     
  11. Scar

    Scar VIP Member

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    Calzaghe is not active so his stock doesn't exist right now unless you're talking about legacy. I personally don't think any fighter should represent another because of a win over them. People won't remember what Kessler won after the Calzaghe loss to describe Calzaghe, they will bring up how Calzaghe beat him.

    Kessler winning the tournament only makes Calzaghe's win over him better, it won't improve Calzaghe's legacy because his legacy is already there when he retired and fully accomplished.
     
  12. itrymariti

    itrymariti CaƱas! Full Member

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    There are those who argue that Calzaghe never beat a prime, elite fighter and only hand-picked a couple of big fights years after they should have been made (not that I believe that). To those people, Kessler obviously doesn't count as that meaningful a victory; but, were he to win the Six, that would surely establish his credentials and make Calzaghe's record a little more plump.