Forget the decision - who here feels Dirrell robbed himself?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by PugilisticPower, Oct 18, 2009.


  1. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    I can't get over the fact that Dirrell was the far better fighter when he actually exchanged with Froch in the 11th and 12th. The 12th was weird because he was kicking Froch's ass as a continuation from his very good 11th before again resorting to his old tactics from the first part of the fight, running around the ring and letting Froch chase him.

    This could have been a masterclass for Dirrell, he could have done similar to Froch what Calzaghe had done to Lacy had he the willpower to back his talents and exchange more.

    Lets hope this loss (robbery or not, be your own judge) will motivate him into leaving less in the hands of judges and more in his own hands.
     
  2. irish warrior

    irish warrior Member Full Member

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    i just think your a tosser
     
  3. valdez

    valdez Grand Champ Full Member

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    I think he didn't give the judges a great impression despite being the better fighter.. but at the same time how could they be blinded by Froch's dirty tactics.. they were as bad as eachother..
     
  4. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Your thread topic says it all.
     
  5. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    He'll be fighting in America from now on and wont have Italian and Belgian judges. British, Mexican and American judges no not to score on bad aggression, but effective aggression. In America he wins this fight going away. So the only thing he'd have learned is, dont fight in Europe.
     
  6. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I didn't watch his corner closely, but he needed someone to go "Steward in the Tyson - Lewis fight" ballistic and tell him early on to get all over Froch. Even though he probably still deserved the nod, there was too much of the Stevens Dirrell on display last night and not enough of the Hanshaw Dirrell.
     
  7. valdez

    valdez Grand Champ Full Member

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    Indeed.. Props to the Mexican judge..
     
  8. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dirrell skill wise is league's above froch....but IMO dirrell's corner knew it was a close fight.....when his corner said "your not getting a decision Here" the job of the corner is to encourage the fighter as well, if the fight wasnt close as some claim, dirrell's corner could have said your boxing beautifully just keep doing what your doing and keep froch in the middle of the ring.....the fight was close.....these 8-9 round win margins for dirrell are horrendous....dirrell should have won by a landslide but he didnt, and his corner knew it too...
     
  9. darwoody

    darwoody New Member Full Member

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    I kind of see what you're saying although I had Dirrell winning the fight comfortably.
    What you forget though is that kind of confidence comes from having a great chin. It's what kept Froch coming forward all night. It's what gave Calzaghe the confidence to stand in front of Lacy knowing his speed was good enough and if he did get caught then he could handle it. I'm not sure Dirrell believes in himself, his great reactions and his own punch resistance that much.
     
  10. DeanoFlash

    DeanoFlash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    htf do you rob yourself?????? By this logic that Dirrell "lost" the fight, what exactly did Froch do to "win" the fight, thats the 10th time I've asked the question and I haven't recieved an answer yet....I'm waiting!
     
  11. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Completely. Dirrell blatantly robbed himself imo.
     
  12. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Froch tried every second of every round. He never ran or grabbed or fell repeatedly over his own feet.

    He tried constantly.

    He threw and threw and Dirrell slipped and slipped.

    For every 10 punches Froch threw Dirrell probably slipped the 8.

    For every 10 punches Dirrell threw he probably landed 8.

    A round where Froch throws 30 punches and lands 6, and Dirrell throws 7 and lands 4 crisp and obvious punches....

    Time and time we will be amazed at Dirrell's great slips and his crisp punches....

    However, although Dirrell may have impressed more times (4 punches plus 24 slips = 28 amazing actions..) than Froch.... Froch still landed 6 compared to Dirrell's 4!

    I don't doubt that Dirrell is vastly more talented than almost anyone else in boxing. Froch fought hard and tried every second of every round - that is what he did. Dirrell was successful at negating a LOT of that... but he forgot to punch himself (he did, but not enough)

    So yeah - Dirrell definitely did rob himself in there.
     
  13. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    So I take it from that post that you agree that Calzaghe clearly beat Hopkins, as we had an American location, an American referee and three American judges who scored it 9-3, 8-4 and 6-6 ?
     
  14. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    I have never once said that Calzaghe did not beat Hopkins. I sometimes urk Calzaghe huggers saying Hopkins was robbed, but I scored the fight for Calzaghe. He was actually effectively aggressive sometimes unlike Froch.
     
  15. TonyPeri

    TonyPeri Active Member Full Member

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    I still think he won it. But yeah, he's his own worst enemy.