Create the ultimate boxer

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by chatty, Oct 21, 2009.


  1. pretty boy

    pretty boy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This fighter wud be unbeatable:lol:
     
  2. pretty boy

    pretty boy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You have very good points my friend you have obviously watched a lot of tapes on SRR but i wud still say he is the most complete fighter ever. He cud box, he cud fight, he cud punch, he was fast and he cud take it if he had to. You can choose to disagree after all it is onlly an opinion. If floyd had more power and maybe committed himself more at times i wud have to say he wud be the most complete fighter ever in my opinion. But you cud say im biased:lol:
     
  3. mrtony80

    mrtony80 Likes thick chicks Full Member

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    Heavyweights

    Power - Ernie Shavers
    Speed - Ali
    Chin - Ray Mercer
    Technique - Ali
    Heart - Riddick Bowe
    Defence - Jack Johnson
    Footwork/movement - Ali

    Lower Weights p4p

    Power - Galaxy
    Speed - Pacquiao
    Chin - Shane Mosley
    Technique - Floyd Mayweather Jr
    Heart - Gatti
    Defense - Floyd Mayweather Jr
    Footwork/movement - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
     
  4. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    John Conteh with the dedication of Marciano.

    that's all you need really.;)
     
  5. avenel

    avenel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ima say pernell with his defence and reflexes,power of tyson,a left hook to the body like cotto but overall body punching like duran,speed of floyd mayweather jr the technique of sugar ray robinson charisma of trinidad heart arturro gatti rip footwork of ali and stamina of manny pacquiao
     
  6. horst

    horst Guest

    I disagree on SRR, but I respect your viewpoint. Of course SRR is a very valid choice for most complete fighter ever. He is probably the best fighter ever, and had no great weaknesses. :good

    I can't offer the same sentiment on Floyd though. I just don't rate single-punch pot-shotting at all, and that's what Floyd has done for the majority of his world title level career. Floyd has not proven to be a top class combination puncher, and for me a truly great fighter needs to have exceptional combination-punching ability. Floyd is a clear level or two below someone like Ray Leonard in my eyes, because combination punching is the essence of boxing, and Leonard proved in big fights he was superb at it, and Floyd has not proved likewise in his biggest fights. JMHO mate.
     
  7. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Power - Tyson
    Speed - Jones Jr.
    Chin - SRR
    Technique - Floyd Jr.
    Boxing IQ - Floyd Jr.
    Heart - Ali
    In the pocket defense - Joan Guzman
    Footwork - Floyd Jr.
     
  8. mantacougar1

    mantacougar1 Guest

    Hand Speed - Meldrick Taylor, Roy Jones Jr.
    Defense - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    Technician - Sugar Ray Leonard
    Combinations - Sugar Ray Leonard
    Body Puncher - Julio Cesar Chavez, Roberto Duran
    Counterpunching - Salvador Sanchez
    Right Cross - Thomas Hearns, Alexis Arguello
    Raw Power - Wilfredo Gomez,
    Jab - Wladimir Klitschko
    Heart - Arturo Gatti, Diego Corrales, Evander Holyfield
    Chin - Julio Cesar Chavez
    Ring Smarts - Floyd Mayweather Jr., Sugar Ray Robinson, SSL
     
  9. pretty boy

    pretty boy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd can combination punch as he used to do it down at super feather and at light welter but he just hasn't done it much recently. He has the ability to throw brilliant combinations, e.g. the gatti fight, R.I.P, but he chooses not to. That why i think if he had great power and let his hands go more he would be the most complete fighter. Though i respect your opinion, you do have a gud knowledge about boxing my friend:thumbsup
     
  10. horst

    horst Guest

    In all fairness, Gatti was not exactly elusive that night. I think most quicker, fresher fighters could have looked sensational against him.

    In Floyd's biggest fights (two against Castillo, one v Oscar, one v Hatton) he has not shown top class combination punching ability. His performance against Corrales was beyond reproach, but in his other biggest fights he has pot-shotted. It's just not a style I admire or enjoy. I think it would come up short against a truly elite opponent. Floyd has excellent skills in some areas, but he is not close to being the most complete fighter ever IMO.

    But I respect your opinion and it has been nice talking to you. :good
     
  11. pretty boy

    pretty boy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    To be fair he did let his hands go in round 8 of hatton and cudnt miss him and against zab judah when he was pressuring him. I am just a huge fan so i will always defend the guy but i respect ur opinion and at least is knowledgable and not clouded with hate. I have to admit pal i really enjoyed talking to you and im looking forward to talkin to you again.
     
  12. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    3 reasons why floyd is throwing single shots.
    1) He is fighting better comp. Like marquez a sharp counter puncher would have almost zero opportunities to retailate.
    2) He is protecting his record by taking less risk and doesn't leave himself open.
    3) he is sharp and quick enough to break his opponents down with his single shots. He put his whole body into his str8 rights and leaps in with his left. Those are big shots and wears his opponents out over time. However his safety first approach allow his opponents to recover from a big clean flush shot.
     
  13. pretty boy

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  14. SnakeFist7

    SnakeFist7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    RJJ with the chin of George Chuvalo. That would be the ultimate boxer. Not to say RJJ have a glass jaw, because he doesn't -- but if was Iron, would be something else.
     
  15. kwyjibo

    kwyjibo O RLY? banned Full Member

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    Roy Jones Jr - Speed
    Rocky Marciano - Power
    Floyd Mayweather Jr - Brain
    Evander Holyfield - Heart
    Sugar Ray Robinson - Chin
    Manny Pacquiao - Attack
    Pernell Whitaker - Defense
    Muhammad Ali - Charisma