Now Taylor has been beaten...will Americans accept Hopkins is nothing special now?

wtf is so hard to understand that a devastating puncher is a devastating puncher? A skilled fighter when fighting someone with the power of Pavlik can go to sleep at any time of the fight, it doesn't matter who you are, Obviously a defensive fighter is always going to give KO machines like Pavlik hell. Who gives a ****? It is almost like you are discrediting Pavlik's win. Pavlik has Julian Jackson type power, its absurd and off the charts.

 

Winky is a sitting duck and will be turned into a human punching bag against Pavlik. Pavlik will run all over him and eventually knock him the f out. Winky's earmuffs won't do **** against the kind of output and power that Pavlik possesses. Obviously Pavlik has defensive problems and hes not incredibly fast but he is BIG..and punches like a monster.

 

Wow, you mean the two best middleweights in the world fought each other and ONE LOST?! :yikes

That proves Calzaghe is better! What bums.

 

The point is the two best middleweights aren't much good. They better stay at 160.

 

Based on what?

 

Based on my eyes. These guys havn't got the ability to step up for different reasons. Stick to defences at 160.

 

That's very different from CHJ's "he was beaten, so he's not good" reasoning.

 

CHJ looks like a prat, I wouldn't pay much attention.

Pavlik is just too crude, too open, not enough boxing skills to live with the best at SMW. He would be taken apart.

Taylor is a decent boxer, but doesn't have the X factor. He doesn't have better skills, enough power or enough heart to compete at 168.

Wright has lost that sharpness that allowed him to pick guys off. He hasn't got the work rate to win on points, or the power to knock these guys back.

I actually think Hopkins has the best chance against JC or Kessler. He has that nous and boxing sense to always remain competetive when the odds are stacked against him. Still won't win mind..

 

man stfu...kessler or ****ing calzaghe...beat nobody...they both would get there ass exposed mixing it up with real fighters...Kesslers 1,2 scooby doo same ass combination and Calslappy with no defensey....would get his head tooken off by Pavlik who would not be phased one bit by his powerless slaps.

 

Well they certainly were brought down a notch but no much more than Calzaghe was after Bute dominated Bika or when Mock KO'd Brewer. On the other hand I am sure that Pavlik would KO Bute and Mock on the same night.

Thus, according to your own phylosophy the cardiff hype should also be brought down a notch.:think

 

well that is what happends when you have 2 euro-trash protected fighters in a weak division. You get these crazy fans who think they are god, but takes them like 10 years to fight one another. I wuold like to see calzaghe go through what pavlik , or miranda, or JT went through and stay unbeaten. ****ing protcted ass fighters. And I think Calzaghe would fight all of them (he is a competitve ****) if that ***** ass warren wasnt such a hinderance to the sport. I hate this unbeaten 'stigma' that goes around. I wish every fighter had a loss on their record.

 

Hehe, I bet you were saying the same about Lacy..

You don't need to have massive power if you are smashing a guy in the face time and time again. If you think Calzaghe or Kessler would have their "head taken off" by Kelly ****ing Pavlik you are deluded beyond belief. Let's be honest, the main thing Pavlik has going for him is he's American rather than any boxing sense that says hes going to beat these guys.

 

surely hopkins aint special NOW...hes a freakin grandpa for crying out loud

 

That's a good pernt = Lewis always accurately says " Styles make fights "
Like " foreman beat Frazier, so he should beat Ali, cause Frazier
beat Ali " OOOOPPPSSS!!

 

Why are people talking as if Taylor is a fraud? He lost to the ATM best middleweight, and he put on a damn good show. There is no shame in that. Jermain performed much better than i thought he would, I was shocked when he put Pavlik down to the canvas.

Both fighters earned my respect, that was one helluva fight.