How did this fight affect your opinion of Taylor?

If he were so superior with handspeed and technique those punch stats wouldn't have been so close.

The idea that he was better technically spawned completely out of that relationship with Kronk gym. There was no real truth to that. And he has never put on a performance to give that indication anyhow.

 

Exactly, yes.

 

:nono
Pavlik was definately the better boxer, outjabbed him, and set up that montrous right hand that had Taylor out on his feet.

 

It didn't. It just reaffirmed the opinion I already held and that is that Taylor's an idiot!

 

I think Taylor needs to get some more experience in the gym with high intensity sparring for a lot of rounds. It was funny how Manny was telling him you have him fighting at a pace hes not used to, but reallly it was the opposite. Taylor wasnt prepared to fight the type of fight he needed to wear out Pavlik. To me Pavlik is a larger version of Diego Corrales. Easy to hit, but super tough. Taylor is maybe not as good as I thought, because he wasnt able to sustain any type of pace, and thats part of being a great fighter.

 

Before this fight, I believed Taylor would beat Pavlik.

Now, I have changed my opinion.

 

Taylor is a great boxer who's still young and learning. I think he learned yesterday that boxing is a "offensive" as well as "defensive" sport. When you get knocked out because of an accumulation of blows it means your defense is leaky.

Look at Jermain's body versus Pavlik's. Pavlik is wiry and in the fights I've seen he doesn't tire to a point where he's really sloppy. Jermain is thicker and tends to empty his tank and require time to gas up.

I think he should take a fight in between the rematch. He needs to fight someone else.

 

My opinion was confirmed - Taylor is an overrated HBO hype job with a questionable chin, who got decisions he didn't deserve and kept the title too long because of the power of HBO.

The HBO suits were trying to set up another gift for Taylor, but Pavlik spoiled their plans. Sorry HBO, but ya can't get a gift decision while yer lying on the canvas!!

 

Very athletic fighter with sound skills, but nothing great. I'd say he's as good now as he's ever going to get. To his credit, he showed real toughness and heart.

 

He might burn in the sun faster, but he would do so with the WBC and WBO middleweight titles.

 

Actually, the fight contradicted several of your opinions. Taylor nearly beat the guy who is now #1 in the middleweight division. He almost had him out in the second round, and continued to fight well until the end. He was nailed repeatedly without getting flattened until the final knockdown, against a guy with huge punching power.

 

:good It was a hell of a fight.

 

One loss, I guess, changes a champ to overrated? I guess Ali was overrated when Frazier beat him...then Frazier was overrated when Foreman beat him...Liston was overrated when Clay beat him...Foreman was overrated when Ali beat him Louis was overrated when Max beat him, but Max was overrated when Louis got vengence. Patterson was overrated when Ingemar beat him, but Ingemar was overrated when patterson beat him, then Patterson was RE-RE overrated when Liston beat him, who was RE-RE overrated when Clay beat him again..
TONS of overrated champs out there!! ,and it takes only one loss.:rofl

 

The fight confirmed my suspicions that Hopkins, Taylor and Wright are not as good as they are believed to be, Hopkins has been fighting rarely and sticking to fighting a seniors tour and taylor, Winky seems to be slipping and Taylor looked bad against Spinks and Ouma.

With Winky, Taylor and Hopkins all being on par with each other and Taylor fighting very close fights with B level opposition it sent alarm bells ringing that the ATG's Wink and Hop aren't what they used to be which is why they are on the level of the Hype job Taylor.

I gave them all the benefit of the doubt and resigned myself to make my judgement of their calibre based upon Taylor vs Pavlik, Taylor lost fair and square but Pavlik is obviously limited, keeping Winky, Hop and Taylor in the p4p top 10 while bringing Pavlik in would require me to make more excuses to defend these guys and i'm not buying it anymore.

If Pavlik, Hopkins, Winky and Taylor fight some guys that aren't named Pavlik, Hopkins, Winky and Taylor and put on some stellar performances against good opposition I will change my mind and put them back in my top 10 but i'm not sold on them anymore.