Your opinion of Eubanks?

Roy Jones made those same rookie mistakes, and a lot more. Certain fighters can get away with them. Eubank was not on Roy's level, but his unorthodoxx style involved a lot of that stuff, it was just the way he fought.

Whitaker's footwork often left him off balance and a lot of times was technically pretty poor, yet no one ever accuses him of having poor footwork. Eubank could look as smooth as butter in there at times provided he was fighting an opponent tailored to his style. He just had clear weaknesses.

 

The footwork and sense of positioning is quality. Well he's certainly the kind of fighter that makes the gulf in class apparent against lesser opposition i mean.

 

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I like the feints with his lead leg he would use.A bit of jersey joe and Zapata in there.

I've actually started watching the Eubank career stuff i have, after some talk about him on different threads recently, to see if my opinions on him have changed with time.Been years since i watched most of his fights.

I might post up some cards for all of his controversial fights later and see if we can get some discussion going on it.Some terible fights mind you, but the Watson one would be good to debate.

 

Eubank employed good technique in terms of his powerpunching technique. His defence was decent but as the opposition quality got better it wasn't quite as effective. A good counterpuncher like Giardello might have really pissed him off, or Toney say. Lkie Pea mentioned, leading wasn't his forte. But he was a good finisher, he showed that against Benn. The footwork is good imo because there are different aspects to technique, he could be off balance but he had the smoothness down and moved well because of it. He made himself narrow as a target also

 

You know what, i'm quite well versed on Eubank but i have never sat and scored the first Watson bout. Nice comparison with the leg feints. I noticed Ricardo Lopez do it once, it wasn't as subtle, well it was subtle in real time but when you replay it it's more wow than subtlety. Walcott could do both wow and subtle with leg feints imo.

 

I think his footwork was fine when he was on the backfoot, it was just when he had to track down someone mobile and keep in position to punch effectively while moving forward that things came apart.

He couldn't punch and move effectively while pressing and as rounds went on would get frustrated if it was against someone mostly just fighting to survive, ending up lunging in with single shots and getting countered because of it.

A lot of otherwise good technicians that are natural counterpunchers have the same problem, though Eubank was one of the worst.Morales and Marquez being two recent ones of note.MOrales is lucky you can count the number of slicksters and good movers he fought on one hand, and watching MArquez constantly overextend himself and plod forward against no-offense John was similarly painful to stuff like Eubank vs Esset and Sherry.

 

I agree with the post. Marquez' problem was definitely his mobility, the man is one dimensional but a lot of people only credit 1D to fighters who come forward constantly like Jeff Lacy. Marquez had to chase Gainer and he just looked pissed off, though he put up with it, Gainer actually just ran that night though. Against Marquez, on paper it looks as though Marquez is at the disadvantage stylistically, facing a pure boxer, but he won (in my opinion clearly) because he was better. Sometimes if a fighter is better than his opponent then he wins regardless of a stylistic disadvantage.

 

I thought Marquez beat John comfortably as well.Just as you say, you could see the clear issues he was having with the style, and John is strictly second-tier.

 

lewis is class:good

 

Better than most Brits would have you believe.

Watching all seven of the Benn, Watson, Thompson and Wharton fights; you see tight combinations thrown with speed and accuracy, a jab that was both quick and stiff, and right hands that were untelegraphed.

The Benn fight in 1990, the fight against Wharton and the second fight with Carl Thompson at cruiser are the bouts where he kept up great work best. Watch those and judge him. He didn't need to keep up good work in most of his posturing title defenses...

 

Although no great shakes, his K.O of Reginaldo Dos Santos shows he could really bang when he wanted to. Was still rock solid at Cruiser, though you could bother him to the body his chin is right up there as one of the best British chins p4p of alltime. Also, due to a recent teeth operation, Eubanks lisp has been replaced by a high-pitched whistle. No joke.

 

on another note you can see the exact same issue for Guillermo Rigondeaux.

 

Eubank's pro debut is on YouTube!

 

I always thought that he represented an impresive all round package as a fighter.

I rather expected him to show us a bit more than he did.