Manny Steward: Floyd is not great

if i remember rightly, manny said, you can't be a great fighter if you just throw one shot at a time... this is obviously in reference to floyd's consistent pot-shotting.
do people agree or disagree with this?

 

Agree with this post. Nice.

I would like to add that Floyd is definitely one of the best technical fighters of his generation, his skills speak for itself. However, all the boxing skills in the world doesn't define greatness, especially if those skills haven't been tested against equal or near equal competition. If Floyd fights and beats Shane Mosely now, it's not much of a victory IMO, even though Mosely has looked pretty good recently. Shane is past his prime.

In the same mentality, I compare Oscar Delahoya to Mayweather. Very, very good fighters, but not quite great. The only difference is that Oscar has fought more of the best competition available in his prime years than Floyd has fought. I still don't agree with Delahoya chickening out against rematches with Whitaker, Quartey and Sturm, but at least he fought those fighters. Floyd has much more to clean up right now in his weight division and his early retirement was nothing more than a publicity stunt to boost his image away from the sport now.

 

I think he is just pissed off as he was excited to watch a great fight, only to see floyd just pot shot to a boring UD.
I hate pot shooters too

 

Floyd is a great fighter. Steward is always underrating great fighters and their ability.

Is Floyd comparable to SRL, SRR, etc? Hell no!

Is he still a great fighter? Of course!

 

"manny stewart is an uncle tom" - floyd mayweatehr

 

Floyd isn't good enough to acheive that kind of greatness even if he wanted to and tried. Not even close.

 

manny's famous for the "this fight is going exactly as i predicted it would..." after changing his mind 5 times from before to throughout the fight. classic bullshitter.

 

:good:yep:happy:bbb

 

Mayweather has a great chance to change people's thoughts about his resume with his return. What he did before, despite being great at the time, has been overshadowed in his absence with the attention Pac was able to get. Pac attracted SO many people lately, haters and fans, that he somehow made people forget Mayweather existed and he accomplished a lot as well.

He has a great chance to change all that now with his return.

 

Anything the HBO guys said that night, I take with a grain of salt. They were against Floyd for not weighting in before the fight.

 

I remember Steward saying that Mayweather wasn't great because he could not kayo Baldomir. Steward should know better, he should know that there are certain fighters that are about impossible to knock out, until at least they age considerably. A perfect example was when Forrest fought Baldomir.

But, on to the point of discussion, Steward it seems has long been deluded by his own hype and I consider him to be a past-prime trainer/commentator, precisely because he has been praised so much that he believes he is the all-knowing boxing expert. We see examples in this in his deluded statements (Floyd isnt a great fighter b/c he cant knock out Baldomir) and in his training which lacks adaptability and flexibility (training all fighters the same, instead of training them to their respective advantages/disadvantages, prime example being his training of Naseem Hamed; not all fighters can be trained like he trained Lewis and Wladimir) and his seeming disinterest in training (examples being accounts of his training regimin by fighters such as Oscar de la Hoya, Jermain Taylor, etc) and in his fighter's themselves (examples being Kermit Cintron and Jonathan Banks after their losses).

 

Of course Floyd is a great fighter. The Castillo and DLH fights just proved that his style and his lack of raw power keep him from looking superhuman when he jumps weight classes. And how many other fighters would we hold to that kind of standard anyhow?

The retirement might have lowered people's expectations slightly, which might be a good thing for him going forward. Then again, if that was something he was aiming for, he should have let Marquez win at least one round...

 

Steward is right about that too. Floyd and his fans should stop bitching. Fight the welterweight champ mosley instead of the baldomirs and featherweights.

 

Yeah, Manny is a great trainer because of some high profile names he's trained, yet his boxers never get outboxed, they just get brutally ko'd lol...

 

Wrong!
His issue stems from Floyd not Fighting Margarito when he was Training him...:bart