Haye; A man of double standards

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  1. calumbo

    calumbo Active Member Full Member

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    Samuel peter spring to mind....He was holding on for dear life in that fight!
    Fiar enough he won but anytimne he was hit he was like an octopus.
    Plus Wlad is usually mich bigger than his opponents.;)

    You may just eat your words! :p
     
  2. DavidChao

    DavidChao A contender,.. a somebody Full Member

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    OP was dead on and painfully, generously, and unnecessarily objective in conceding positive points for David Haye in an attempt to be fair as well as appease the expectant flaming ignoramuses.

    And yet flamery still ensued.

    Spot on analysis nonetheless; I await the day that Haye fights a Klit (or doesn't). If he does, regardless of win or lose (and I am heavily leaning toward the latter), I'd at least give him more credit and respect than I give him now for at least living up to a portion of his previous bravado.
     
  3. calumbo

    calumbo Active Member Full Member

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    So the guys a 2 weight champion, beats a man 90 pounds heavier than him and a foot taller, brings in a lot of publicity and has stated over the last few days he will fight a klitschko in the summer.
    Were is the double standards exactly?
     
  4. FROST

    FROST Boxing Addict Full Member

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    good post
     
  5. gplloyd

    gplloyd Undisputed Full Member

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    I just saw a news article and he showed his hand and it's about 4 times the size of his left - definitely broken.
     
  6. gplloyd

    gplloyd Undisputed Full Member

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    I don't know why so many people are hating Haye, I think he proved a lot on Saturday night.

    We've all seen him be the aggressor in fights, it comes naturally for him, but this was the first time I've seen him on the back foot counter punching. He showed that he can be patient and pick his shots and that he can go 12 rounds and still finish looking strong(and all this with a broken right hand). I admit that Valuev is by no means great and that there will be sterner tests down the line, but I have to say that Haye dispelled a lot of the fears I had about him coping as a HW.

    His speed is second to non in the division and I believe he has the reflexes to frustrate ANY HW boxer, he just needs to build on the great work him and Booth have been doing since the Barret fight. Good luck to him!
     
  7. bdman

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    Theres the balloon like swelling. Now.. shut the **** up :hi:
     
  8. Quarteysjab

    Quarteysjab Guest

    haye knows he will get knocked out by either Klitschko. it's why he pulled out twice and took the easy route to the fake wba title.

    haye sure did fight like a guy who knew he'd get the decision as long as he lasted 12 didn't he? king and sauerland would never do that though :0
     
  9. yale

    yale Active Member Full Member

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    This isn't about hating Haye. This is about him talking so much **** about how he is basically the next tyson, full of fast twitch fibres and an explosive warrior who is going to knock seven shades of **** out of the hevyweight division, and then spends the whol fight against the worst champion for years on the back foot, barely throwing a punch. And his nuthuggers who have been saying how pathetic wlad is, now say how amazing it is to hit and not be hit and how Davey boy can box. The irony is lost on them.
     
  10. calumbo

    calumbo Active Member Full Member

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    There is no irony!
    Haye boxed to a plan.. the only plan he could use against Valuev unless you want to be leaned on by a 300ib giant for 12 round and or knocked out.
    Wlad fights boring EVERY fight..even the chagaev fight when he got the tko in the 9th he was boring.
    If youve ever watched a haye fight bar that one you will see that the guy brings knockout power and exciting fights, he has one boring fight and everyone says hes some sort of pretender!
    As already discussed he had to build thefight up and give valuev a false sense of his game plan.
     
  11. Quarteysjab

    Quarteysjab Guest

    LOL well said! and haye saying how he fell asleep watching Wlad slaughter Rahman, now all the sudden hay's a pugilist specialist becaue he ran curcles around a cement shoed elephant.
     
  12. pablogad

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    Haye's shortcoming - if you wish to view it in this way - is his recent verbal tirades at his opponents or possible future opponents. The point to note here is he's become particularly mouthy since moving to heavyweight, so it's arguable that this could be as much a promotional ploy than simply being just mouthy. Hype sells fights people.

    Having seen a number of Haye interviews where he was confronted on the issue of not fighting Wlad or Vitaly his response has been consistent (point 2 below) and there were well publicised mitigating circumstances concerning his withdrawal from the Wlad fight:

    1. Haye didn't fight Wlad because he injured his back; the sports channel that promoted this fight (Setanta) and were Haye's paymaster also went bust prior to the fight happening.

    2. Stipulations in the signed contract with Wlad and the rejected contract with Vitaly made Haye contractually bound to fight either brother in the event that he defeated either brother. In effect Haye would need to defeat both brothers twice on predetermined terms e.g. location, ring size, percentage of purse etc.

    Hope this clarifies matters for you.
     
  13. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Didnt look swollen? You twat.
     
  14. Stoic

    Stoic Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You biased "UK" guys make this fun...:happy
     
  15. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You have some source to prove that?

    Sounds very hard to believe that arena of that size has only 108 returned tickets when main event changes