PACFAN MYTH #1 - Cotto lacks an effective right hand

Bazooka · Nov 10, 2009

NALLEGE said: ↑

You have to be the worst poster on this forum lol... I mean thee worst lol...
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Polls have proven you to hold that title, Congrats champ:good

Knives7 · Nov 10, 2009

kirk said: ↑

lol...

when someone has a different view then scar he gets personal by calling them some sort of what im sure he thinks is clever, when he gets called out on his **** (like saying valuev no doubt won the fight) his responce is 'different people have different opinions' and then insults them. And hes usually a hypocrite... and gets so irrational that his points become absurd.

hes the general forums version of charlie z..... except scar actually knows a thing or two about boxing.

i dont think anything is crazy absurd and wrong with that post enough to be deleted to be honest..... and i def dont think it should have been deleted, it is what it is, but its still typical scar. He crosses lines with people who make innocent posts (meaning they themselves are not crossing any lines) often.

but i think the post was decent outside of the patranising tone which is a constant in his posts, and personal attacks.... imo pac is def not one d, hes got too much at his disposal to be considered such imo.
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LOL Ok.... Anyway he didn't say anything **** in his current post right now. So, it doesn't really matter to me.

Knives7 · Nov 10, 2009

NALLEGE said: ↑

You have to be the worst poster on this forum lol... I mean thee worst lol...
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No ***llege that title belongs to you!

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Bazooka · Nov 10, 2009

Knives7 said: ↑

No ***llege that title belongs to you!

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God damn those numbers are onesided:yep

bladerunner · Nov 10, 2009

Bazooka said: ↑

God damn those numbers are onesided:yep
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He has only one or two votes more than all the others combined.

it doesnt get more one sided than that

Bazooka · Nov 10, 2009

out of 83 votes he took 46 of them the rest have like 12 or 14 each thats some **** right there.

Nearly four times the amount of what the others got ohh **** this is ownage...

threethirteen · Nov 10, 2009

Can we talk about Cotto's right hand again, please?

Bazooka · Nov 10, 2009

threethirteen said: ↑

Can we talk about Cotto's right hand again, please?
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You mean the one in your avatar, nah lets not, I would love to see what they come up with if Cotto knocks out Manny with that right hand..:good

BlueApollo · Nov 10, 2009

Bazooka said: ↑

You mean the one in your avatar, nah lets not, I would love to see what they come up with if Cotto knocks out Manny with that right hand..:good
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Cotto KO'd a midget!

J/k man...

PIPO23 · Nov 10, 2009

NALLEGE said: ↑

Originally Posted by Scar
How does Pac have one style of fighting?, if anything he showed with his recent improvements that he can adapt and can fight defensive using counter punches and movement if he needs to. What makes him #1 P4P

Pac is not pfp #1, and second, he is still one dimensional. He does not land those other punches you talk about on good fighters. He lands them on hand picked guys who are not his equal.

and an ATG and what makes Roach an HOF/ATG trainer is how they brought serious changes to Pacman. That's NOT something any fighter can do, it takes a special fighter.

Pac is NOT an atg, and Roach is not a atg/h.o.f trainer yet. It does take a special fighter to transform after being ko'd by head and body shots. PAc has Arum so he can continue to duck black fighters, and still get respect...

Tacobell enthusiasts here tend to jump on any excuse they can find and any bandwagon available if a loss for Pac is possible and I can't blame them. What the hell are you smoking mentioning Morales and Marquez?, Pacquiao destroyed Morales and even with a serious cut and a one-dimensional style, at the time, Morales went life and death with him

What's with the Taco Bell degenerate response ??? Morales and Pac did not go life and death in fight 1 so stop lying to us fans who saw that fight. Morales was never hurt in that fight, and did not have a mark on his face after that fight. Pac-Marquez 1 is more of what you're talking about.

and Pac didn't have the gloves he wanted. When he got the gloves he wanted the very first clean punch lands on Morales in round 2 and he's rocked from one corner to another needing to grab the ropes to avoid hitting the canvas. Marquez was hurt badly against Pac and LOST to him, your tacobell scorecard isn't based on what they did in the ring it's based on who's from what country you want them to be which makes you a ******ed piece of trash.

I'm surprised that you have not been temporarily banned pusshead. **** the gloves excuse because no sane fan will even side with you on that excuse. Second, many people think Pac WON the first fight with JMM, and LOST the rematch.

Face it, Pac destroyed your idols and made quick work out of them in the process. Only one that gave Pac a serious challenge was Marquez and even Marquez was being ducked by your other idols back in the day, Pac immediately gave him a shot and the Pac fight is what made him recognized.

Morales beat Pac while past his prime while Pac was IN his prime, and EM clearly won by more than what those sorry scorecards said, AND EM gave Dapidran a bit of fight while PAST HIS PRIME in the rematch. Second, I agree that JMM was ducked by EM and MAB, but did Pac rematch Torrecampo and Signsurat???

His own countrymen, Barrera and Morales, didn't bother to mention him. Pac comes out of nowhere and fights him even though Marquez was an unknown back then with his biggest win being Derrick Gainer.

So what you think Gainer was JMM's biggest win lol... Just like those other guysyou speak of...Pac is being managed today, and is not taking on the best. Dapidran is hand picking his comp just like EM and MAB did toward the end just as EM and MAB did toward the end. Arum's fighters tend to do this to keep cash in uncle daddy Arum's pockets.

Pacquiao is NOT one-dimensional. If he's one-dimensional and crushed those guys what does that say about them?, they're all bums?, I know your ass will hurt trying to answer that question.

Pac is one dimensional, and he just hides it behind speed and fighting inferior, old name comp. When PAc beats Floyd, he won't be called one dimensional by me anymore because it will take more than a one dimensional fighter to beat Floyd.

Don't worry, just give Chavez Jr. 88 more fights against garbage pickers and nurses and he should attempt to avenge your heroes. For now, let's celebrate Pacquiao.

Celebrate what? Celebrate the fact that he's called the best fighter in the world by RING mag when he's been ko'd twice, practically ducked Guzman and Campbell, and fought a used up Hatton, a shot Dlh, and a bum in Diaz AFTER beating the old guys at 130 lbs with the exception of JMM. Please!!!!!!

The sad part is I know filth bags like you will give Pac zero credit if he wins. Then again, history doesn't pay attention to filth so Pac is safe.

Yeah, well Dapidran shouldn't have asked to fight Cotto at 143, only to get the fight at 145 calling it a ww ttle fight. That was a ***** move, and the only filth is you for posting the Taco Bell shite you sorry sack of boneless shite. If I were Mexican, I'd have reported this post.
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**** reading all that ****, but thanks you for your contribution.

Capitan · Nov 10, 2009

M.I.G. said: ↑

My only fear in this fight is Pac circling to the outside of Cotto's lead foot. It's been apparent in some of his fights that quick feet can leave him out of position to punch >> i.e. Judah rounds 1&2.

If Pac steps to his right and Cotto doesn't keep him in his sights, he'll be open for a right hand that could later set up Pac's left.

I think Pac will try this on Saturday, but if Cotto is ready, he'll be keep Pac where he wants him and the circling will work in Cotto's favor>> the right hand you mentioned.

Pac's flaws come in exchanges. He's not the best at responding when he's being pressed.

... Cotto is a smart fighter. Logic points to him winning this one. He's more than a level above DLH or Hatton.
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Cotto is too smart for that....Clottey tried it and 1 min into the 6th round he got cracked with a left hook lifting his leg off the canvass of which he remained on the ropes for over a minute....tell me he wasn't hurt !!!

Knives7 · Nov 10, 2009

NALLEGE said: ↑

Pac is not pfp #1, and second, he is still one dimensional. He does not land those other punches you talk about on good fighters. He lands them on hand picked guys who are not his equal.

Pac is NOT an atg, and Roach is not a atg/h.o.f trainer yet. It does take a special fighter to transform after being ko'd by head and body shots. PAc has Arum so he can continue to duck black fighters, and still get respect...

What's with the Taco Bell degenerate response ??? Morales and Pac did not go life and death in fight 1 so stop lying to us fans who saw that fight. Morales was never hurt in that fight, and did not have a mark on his face after that fight. Pac-Marquez 1 is more of what you're talking about.

I'm surprised that you have not been temporarily banned pusshead. **** the gloves excuse because no sane fan will even side with you on that excuse. Second, many people think Pac WON the first fight with JMM, and LOST the rematch.

Morales beat Pac while past his prime while Pac was IN his prime, and EM clearly won by more than what those sorry scorecards said, AND EM gave Dapidran a bit of fight while PAST HIS PRIME in the rematch. Second, I agree that JMM was ducked by EM and MAB, but did Pac rematch Torrecampo and Signsurat???

So what you think Gainer was JMM's biggest win lol... Just like those other guysyou speak of...Pac is being managed today, and is not taking on the best. Dapidran is hand picking his comp just like EM and MAB did toward the end just as EM and MAB did toward the end. Arum's fighters tend to do this to keep cash in uncle daddy Arum's pockets.

Pac is one dimensional, and he just hides it behind speed and fighting inferior, old name comp. When PAc beats Floyd, he won't be called one dimensional by me anymore because it will take more than a one dimensional fighter to beat Floyd.

Celebrate what? Celebrate the fact that he's called the best fighter in the world by RING mag when he's been ko'd twice, practically ducked Guzman and Campbell, and fought a used up Hatton, a shot Dlh, and a bum in Diaz AFTER beating the old guys at 130 lbs with the exception of JMM. Please!!!!!!

Yeah, well Dapidran shouldn't have asked to fight Cotto at 143, only to get the fight at 145 calling it a ww ttle fight. That was a ***** move, and the only filth is you for posting the Taco Bell shite you sorry sack of boneless shite. If I were Mexican, I'd have reported this post.
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1st Pacquiao IS the number 1 pound for pound! LMAO ask Barerra and other boxers including the known experts (REMEMBER YOU'RE NOT A ****ING A EXPERT)that fought him if Pacquiao is one-dimensional. :rofl You're a fool for thinking that Oscar and Hatton we're hand picked.

Pacquiao IS an ATG and obviously a future hall of famer ask an expert. Roach is not hall of famer?? HA! He already is IN the hall of fame. YOU ******! And you pull the race card again! :rofl He's ducking black boxers. The only box (regardless of their color) that Pacquiao needs to fight IS Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Everyone knows that Pac-Morales was not one-sided. You ******! You might wanna watch the fight again! Even the commentors said that the fight is not one-sided! Pacquiao was at his prime?? Physically maybe but he techniques were raw! Oh the other-hand Morales who was ONLY 28, was STILL a respectable counter puncher!

LMAO! The catch-weight is a ***** move by Pacquiao? Don't ****ing kid yourself ******. Cotto wanted 145 because he knows he can make it. Pacquiao is not even a legit welter. He only weighed-in 138 during the Hatton fight and hydrated to 148.

And bringing up his PASS LOSES means **** now! Just tell US why his pass loses matters to now? Are you trying to say that a boxer with loses can't become great. Then **** Ali, Duran, Armstrong and the rest of the other boxers with loses in the ATG list of boxing historians are nothing but bums!

If I were a mod I'd ban you for always posting stupid comments and always PULLING THE RACE CARD.

Everyone knows that you're dumb ***llege.
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PIPO23 · Nov 10, 2009

Cotto has a right, but he needs to set.Pacquiao has a faster left and faster footwork. HE will unload with angles and and will set Cotto run into his punch which they're working on it's plain to see. Cotto's strong. I do saw JUdah and Mosley fights with Cotto.Let us say Mosely was old and judah is a patient counter puncher.The one thing Cotto does do well is jab and counter with timing and good body shots.I see a close fight but Pac's too fast and starts to get the better of Cotto in the 6th because Cotto tends to fade and runs just observing his fights.

Silvermags · Nov 10, 2009

Knives7 said: ↑

No ***llege that title belongs to you!

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Ouch! WTF?!:|:|:|again

mrtony80 · Nov 10, 2009

NALLEGE said: ↑

Originally Posted by Scar
How does Pac have one style of fighting?, if anything he showed with his recent improvements that he can adapt and can fight defensive using counter punches and movement if he needs to. What makes him #1 P4P

Pac is not pfp #1, and second, he is still one dimensional. He does not land those other punches you talk about on good fighters. He lands them on hand picked guys who are not his equal.

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and an ATG and what makes Roach an HOF/ATG trainer is how they brought serious changes to Pacman. That's NOT something any fighter can do, it takes a special fighter.

Pac is NOT an atg, and Roach is not a atg/h.o.f trainer yet. It does take a special fighter to transform after being ko'd by head and body shots. PAc has Arum so he can continue to duck black fighters, and still get respect...

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Tacobell enthusiasts here tend to jump on any excuse they can find and any bandwagon available if a loss for Pac is possible and I can't blame them. What the hell are you smoking mentioning Morales and Marquez?, Pacquiao destroyed Morales and even with a serious cut and a one-dimensional style, at the time, Morales went life and death with him

What's with the Taco Bell degenerate response ??? Morales and Pac did not go life and death in fight 1 so stop lying to us fans who saw that fight. Morales was never hurt in that fight, and did not have a mark on his face after that fight. Pac-Marquez 1 is more of what you're talking about.

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and Pac didn't have the gloves he wanted. When he got the gloves he wanted the very first clean punch lands on Morales in round 2 and he's rocked from one corner to another needing to grab the ropes to avoid hitting the canvas. Marquez was hurt badly against Pac and LOST to him, your tacobell scorecard isn't based on what they did in the ring it's based on who's from what country you want them to be which makes you a ******ed piece of trash.

I'm surprised that you have not been temporarily banned pusshead. **** the gloves excuse because no sane fan will even side with you on that excuse. Second, many people think Pac WON the first fight with JMM, and LOST the rematch.

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Face it, Pac destroyed your idols and made quick work out of them in the process. Only one that gave Pac a serious challenge was Marquez and even Marquez was being ducked by your other idols back in the day, Pac immediately gave him a shot and the Pac fight is what made him recognized.

Morales beat Pac while past his prime while Pac was IN his prime, and EM clearly won by more than what those sorry scorecards said, AND EM gave Dapidran a bit of fight while PAST HIS PRIME in the rematch. Second, I agree that JMM was ducked by EM and MAB, but did Pac rematch Torrecampo and Signsurat???

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His own countrymen, Barrera and Morales, didn't bother to mention him. Pac comes out of nowhere and fights him even though Marquez was an unknown back then with his biggest win being Derrick Gainer.

So what you think Gainer was JMM's biggest win lol... Just like those other guysyou speak of...Pac is being managed today, and is not taking on the best. Dapidran is hand picking his comp just like EM and MAB did toward the end just as EM and MAB did toward the end. Arum's fighters tend to do this to keep cash in uncle daddy Arum's pockets.
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Pacquiao is NOT one-dimensional. If he's one-dimensional and crushed those guys what does that say about them?, they're all bums?, I know your ass will hurt trying to answer that question.

Pac is one dimensional, and he just hides it behind speed and fighting inferior, old name comp. When PAc beats Floyd, he won't be called one dimensional by me anymore because it will take more than a one dimensional fighter to beat Floyd.

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Don't worry, just give Chavez Jr. 88 more fights against garbage pickers and nurses and he should attempt to avenge your heroes. For now, let's celebrate Pacquiao.

Celebrate what? Celebrate the fact that he's called the best fighter in the world by RING mag when he's been ko'd twice, practically ducked Guzman and Campbell, and fought a used up Hatton, a shot Dlh, and a bum in Diaz AFTER beating the old guys at 130 lbs with the exception of JMM. Please!!!!!!

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The sad part is I know filth bags like you will give Pac zero credit if he wins. Then again, history doesn't pay attention to filth so Pac is safe.

Yeah, well Dapidran shouldn't have asked to fight Cotto at 143, only to get the fight at 145 calling it a ww ttle fight. That was a ***** move, and the only filth is you for posting the Taco Bell shite you sorry sack of boneless shite. If I were Mexican, I'd have reported this post.
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