"Haye Ran & Was Scared To Fight"

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  1. FrochPascal

    FrochPascal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    what on Earth is this garbage that i see written. Its called robberies-plain and simple. A Plain robbery is a plain robbery is a plain robbery.

    Holyfield was robbed-i remember at the time thinking it was one of the worst ive ever seen. A proud warrior like Holyfield(even though he was mid-forties) wasnt back peddling all night but was on his feet and constantly looking to move in on Valuev.

    The thing that really irks me is Haye was talking all that stuff before the fight and was constantly running his lips and went ahead and did that-it was embarrasing.
     
  2. FrochPascal

    FrochPascal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    oh let me just add ive never critisised a fighter before for 'running' and dont particularly like the term. Haye is an exception and ive given reasons in certain threads like this one.

    I usually only critikse fighters who cheat in the ring-because to me thats sick. Strangly enough above i talked about Holyfield as a 'proud warrior'-however he was linked to steroids. To me, from what ive read on it, i cant say i m pretty sure Holyfield used them. The evidence didnt seem that strong but if i found out he did-i'll lose all respect.
     
  3. TommyV

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    The point is in the context on things, Haye fought in such a way that he appealed to the judges and ensured a decision, by fighting in a smooth style and avoiding getting hit. Again, what's wrong with that?
     
  4. FrochPascal

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    no its not dont be stupid now.

    Theres plenty of (so-called) judges who would have been put off by that.

    Just look at the Dirrel-Froch fight for example.

    I also dont even think the victory was that clear. I gave rounds to Valuev until i gave up scoring. The last round was a big swayer in many peoples minds
     
  5. FrochPascal

    FrochPascal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    add to above)))-how exactly do you know what the judges are loking for ?

    he was the challenger you know? you telling me backpeddling away the whole fight and get in with the odd shots is enough to take the title?

    personally i wouldnt be surprised at all of shady going on beforehand anyway.
     
  6. eiregobrach

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    Hayes boasting, and criticism of Klits before the fight is at the crux of the matter. Haye moaned and bitched about how 'boring' the klits were in their recent fights. Vitali threw more punches in two rounds- against a real life heavyweight-than the 'exciting Haye did the whole fight!!
    Haye did enough to win but it was an absolute borefeast! I actually turned the fight of in the tenth!
     
  7. TommyV

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    And sometimes it doesn't go your way. But both Dirrell & Haye maximised their chances by fighting in the manner they did. If both decided to have traded, they might not of even made the last bell let alone got a decision.

    The last round was obviously a clear Haye round, but it's still only a 10-9 round. Not many people would of been swayed just by that round, principly because a lot including me were noting down scorecards and therefore that round wouldn't have any reflection on the scores up till then. I myself had it 7-4-1 for Haye.
     
  8. eiregobrach

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    agreed :thumbsup
     
  9. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    It's called pre-fight hype. Read up on it & learn the basics sometime. You turned the fight off in round 10 because you are a casual fan at best.
     
  10. eiregobrach

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    Untrue, i rarely miss televised boxing and very often attend fights, Rogan's fight last week, Dunnes recent title fight any boxing on the island....
    I turned it off because in comparison to his pre-fight rubbish i found Haye extremely poor against a slow lethargic fighter!
    I don't mind pre-fight hype at all, as long as it is backed up in the ring.
    For me Haye shaded the fight but the delivery was very poor.
     
  11. StreetsOfGold

    StreetsOfGold Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I didn't see either Klit in a rush to fight Valuev.
     
  12. eiregobrach

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  13. zfc

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    Chef you seem to be getting very irate and anxious as you change your stories and facts every week.

    I know it will be hard for you when you only have to feed the big brother as the little brother will be finished as a pro after Haye dismantles him Sanders style leaving him nowhere to go.

    You can cling on to the coat tails of Vitali when he gets revenge for Vlad like the little brother does when he gets his ass kicked in the ring.