Calzaghe-Kessler most significatn fight of the century...

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  1. Korn_06

    Korn_06 ESB Slave Full Member

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    A small correction we are now in the 21st, century
     
  2. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    Sorry... that is of course correct, but still same thing applies:cool:
     
  3. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    Calzaghe at 33-34 beat the top rank Jeff Lacy, and not only did he beat him - he sent him to school, and showed no signs of being passed prime. Kessler is in his prime - no doubt, and have never showed any indication of looking bad - unlike...

    Mayweather and Hatton. Floyd appeared less than impressive to me against Oscar, but most things were to DLHs advantage; weight class, ring size and glove size. However, we are all aware that DLH is way past his prime.

    Hatton has looked far worse at 147 - against Collazo and Urango. There is no indication that Hatton will fare very well at 147.

    I root for Hatton, but to me this fight is not an even contest, at least no where near Kessler/Calzaghe.
     
  4. Cruiser1

    Cruiser1 Champion Emeritus Full Member

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    True boxing fans (American or not) realize the significance of this fight. I am looking forward to it very much. If Calzaghe wins he'll be the best supermiddle of all-time in my book and if Kessler wins he'd be a big win or two away from being that as well.

    Neither of them has ever really come close to losing a fight unless u wanna count Calzaghe's fight with Robin Reid which wasn't really that controversial to begin with. It just doesn't get any bigger than this. 2 elite fighters going at it. November 3rd can't come soon enough.
     
  5. Rollo

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    It is also absurd to say that he would have won, because we will never know. There is the Jones era, and the Kessler/Calzaghe era - that´s how it is.
     
  6. Rollo

    Rollo Active Member Full Member

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    BTW - I think we´ll know more about if this fight is significant or not on nov 4.
     
  7. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I disagree, Chad Dawson is significantly more skilled than Kessler and a level above Joe C at this stage, while Zsolt Erdei is on Calzaghe's level in terms of boxing skills (but lacks Calzaghe's stamina).

    Plus if you want to get technical, Hopkins is superior to both in terms of skills, but he is simply getting too long in tooth to be the top dog anymore.
     
  8. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :rofl
     
  9. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Taylor, Mosely, Cotto, DLH, pretty much all of the big PPV stars (which Kessler or calzaghe aren't).

    Diaconu and Bute are talked about occasionally on Ross Anber's show, and as a result so are Chad Dawson and Tomasz Adamek (fighters Diaconu was/is gunning for).
     
  10. Korn_06

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    Chad Dawson is still quite young and I know that he beat Adamek convincingly, however Adamek was clearly off his A-game that night, I dont know why. Maybe he is that good, but we are very fast to praise fighters for one specific win. So far Chad is the 5th. ranked LHW fighter and he will of course show us all, but let him do it first.
     
  11. McSMW

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    AXE:
    "I disagree, Chad Dawson is significantly more skilled than Kessler and a level above Joe C at this stage,"


    Chad Dawson? Significantly more skilled than Kessler and a level above Joe?
    I respect your opinion, but this is a stupid claim. Dawson might have great potiential, but thats all so far.


    Someone: "You really think the fact many part-time American fans are ignorant to this bout somehow devalues it? Rubbish. This is as significant as any bout in history. In pure boxing terms. Fame is not a factor. "

    JAYGATSBY: "This just shows your anit-american bias, flat out. "

    And how is that? He just says that the lack of american interest in the fight doesnt make it less significant in terms of boxing skill and legacy. How can something that obvious be labeled anti-american.

    On the other hand, yes, this fight wont get the same respect in the historybooks as, maybe Maywether-Hatton, because of the lack in american interest, but skill- and elitewise, this IS sofar the topfight of the 21. century.

    On Nov. 4 we know for sure.
     
  12. knockout

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  13. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oscar - Mayweather was just a huge money spinner and a mismatch. Oscar had done absolutely nothing of late.

    It isn't difficult to suggest Calzaghe is better than Ali mate. There is a greater talent pool at SWM for starters, it is likely to produce better fighters, as SMW are normal, commonly sized people. HW are massive and there are very few of them in the world. Far lesser talent pool, devalues any HW era a bit. Ali isn't amazingly impressive on video either. His biggest fights Foreman and Fraizer. The only two good, non robbery victories he has. In losing to Fraizer and non via a freak knockout (like Lewis might) he showed how ungodlike he actually was and against Foreman (with the accidental invention of the rope-a-dope) he won based on Foreman's inability to pace himself and general lack of wisdom at that time, but that was still very impressive just not Calzaghe - Eubank, Calzaghe - Lacy, Calzaghe KO1 Veit, Calzaghe KO2 Mitchell impressive.
     
  14. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not praising his resume at the moment. He has one big win in which he was floored hard, that's it.

    In terms of boxing skills however, he is a level above Kessler imo, he has more angles, is faster, more elusive, moves his head better, etc.

    He could turn out to be the next big thing or he could get iced by Diaconu next. Who knows. All we can do is look at the fighter that appears in the ring on a fight-by-fight basis.
     
  15. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Good Post. Although Jones is head 2 head the best SMW, on resume Kessler would have a great chance of becoming the best ever no doubt, considering the young age of the division.