Thought on last night's fight.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Addie, Nov 15, 2009.


  1. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Congratulations to Manny Pacquiao, he once again proves many of us wrong, including myself, by beating one of the best Welterweights in the world, and he did it going toe to toe.

    I'd like to give a little bit of credit to Miguel Cotto, however. I felt he was more competitive early on, and with the exception of the two knockdowns, one of them being more of a balance issue, he was holding his own and landing hard shots on Pacquiao. He didn't quit, he kept getting up off his stool late on, when it had became apparent there was only going to be one winner. He did have a lot of trouble with Manny's speed, and it was the shot he didn't see that hurt him badly. The left uppercut, he was saved by the bell.

    This fight was one and lost the moment Pacquiao took Cotto's best shots. I didn't think that was ever going to happen. I imagined Pacquiao being able to land hus own shots with his quickness and variety, and I actually thought he had a good chance at hurting Cotto after the Hatton fight. I picked Cotto, however, because we had yet to see Manny take a shot from a full bloodied Welterweight, and it was hard for to believe a former Featherweight could take Cotto's left hand. He did, on numerous occasions, but he'd then come back and land more shots than Cotto, which would hurt his opponent.

    Well done to Manny. Great performance. Well done to Cotto, both of them gave us a real memorable war the first 3-4 rounds, but then it was Pacquiao's punch resistance and own speed and power that saw him come through the fight pretty comfortably in the end.

    There's only two fighters from 147 and below in the world today that could beat Pacquiao, who I'd pick to beat him, everyone else need not apply.
     
  2. warrior85

    warrior85 R.I.P THUNDER Full Member

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    cotto is still a great fighter imo but pacquiao is a special fighter,best of the decade without doubt,great fight.big respect to both guys.
     
  3. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    let me guess

    Mayweather and .....Barrera?
     
  4. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I guess you don't following Boxing outside of Manny, so I'll have to tell you, but Barrera is retired. Yeah, he actually turned professional 20 years ago this year, and had a long prosperous career before anyone had even heard of Manny.

    I've always maintained that Floyd Mayweather Jr is a bad style match-up for Manny. Really, how many of those flurries do you envision landing on the end of Floyd's chin? He very rarely gets hit, and he's avoided dynamic offensive fighters in the past. I think Floyd would win the fight comfortably.

    Shane Mosley also. He brings way to much of everything, including comparable handspeed to Manny Pacquiao.

    Those are the only two. If you don't like it, tough ****.
     
  5. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I kind of just told you. The fact Manny was stopped down at the lower weights before he matured, and how Marquez was able to hurt him with his left hand on the counter more recently. He hadn't gave any of us any indication that we was capable of taking full bloodied shots from a strong, skilled Welterweight like Miguel Cotto. Think about it, people are making this fight out to be thoroughly one sided, but in the first 5-6 rounds, Cotto was landing hard, hard shots too, but Manny was taking them. If his chin wasn't as sturdy, he'd have hit the canvas,.
     
  6. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    You dont get invited to a lot of parties do you?

    but you did catch me on Mosely I thought you meant Williams.
     
  7. rccwilliams

    rccwilliams Sippin' on some sizzurp Full Member

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    Pretty much exactly how i figured it would go down, only slightly less competitive. Pacquiao was just to much for him(on another level really), but i thought Cotto's survival skills would let him see the final bell(and truthfully, he probably would have, though Bayless was more than justified).

    Dont start with that now.
     
  8. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Not idea what you're talking about. Irrelevant...completely to this thread. If you want to play the fool and talk ****, go to someone elses thread.


    Paul Williams ain't no Welterweight anymore, he's way to big for Manny just like Kelly Pavlik is way to big for Manny.

    I don't want this thread to concentrate on questioning who Manny would lose too. This was his night, and once again, his year. He did a fantastic job, and like I said myself, proved me wrong...again.
     
  9. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    Not playing the fool, but I do find humor for the fact you naive enough to write 3 paragraphs in a response of what clearly is a joke and not an attack.

    Lighten up, its a great weekend for boxing.
     
  10. Smazz20

    Smazz20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pacman is just ****ing magical. I've backed against him in his last 3-4 fights and each and every time he's been phenomenal. Can't wait till he fights Mayweather.
     
  11. Gunns4hire

    Gunns4hire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Cotto could have won if he stuck to the jab and didnt fall into pacs bull**** exchanges....

    Pac is great and gets a lot of respect from me for this fight......

    But cotto has a bad habit of abandoning his fight plan and fighting the other mans fight.....


    That will not happen with Floyd Mayweather sorry?
     
  12. horst

    horst Guest

    Cotto could have won... if he didn't get dominated, destroyed, humiliated, and stopped.

    Great post.
     
  13. pngo

    pngo #1Contender Full Member

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    :good

    Pacquiao just surprised everyone! Seriously who would have thought he could take Cotto's shots like they were nothing?
     
  14. kracka81

    kracka81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yeah manny is the man he defintly dominated but the ref should have let go to the last bell. no doubt manny would have got the nod but out of respect for how hard cotto fought last nite. he should have been allowed to make it to the final bell. but great job manny cant wait to see ur next fight.
     
  15. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Those who picked Pacquiao don't know any more about the sport than the rest of us. Pacquiao wasn't supposed to walk through Cotto's best shots, he's just a special fighter, and that's all it boils down too. It's a credit to him that he proves us all wrong, god forbid if Manny kept taking on fights he was expected to win. Ignore the odds for Hatton and Cotto, those were legitimate threats. And Pacquiao...dispelled logic.