Schaeffer: "We'd all have to be morons not to let this happen"

you're a real pac homer if you want a catchweight , thats roach's plan in his last fights to try and drain down a bigger opponent so he has a SLIGHT advantage..which i feel it hurt DLH, but not cotto that much, they should just fight at 147 and get it on, 55%-45% winner takes 55 or 60-40 winner takes 60, problem solved, fight happens, if they push the catchweight mayweather isn't going to do that **** peroid, and i don't blame him, he isn't stupid he isn't going to go in all drained . he is the WBO WW champion, the weight and size isn't going to matter with mayweather anyway , it isn't like he is some renound puncher, his style is more boxing , and defense, 2-3 pounds won't make a big difference

 

This catch-weight bull**** is unbelievable. Manny Pacquiao is now a welterweight title holder and if he wants to fight a welter in Floyd, than Floyd should be able to weigh in at 147. This catch-weight nonsense needs to stop

 

the only way this fight will happen and the only way it should happen is at 147 with a 50/50 split.

 

why keep repeating welterweight? as i said, it not a fight about welterweight but a fight between their legacy. 145 is just perfect because it's between their previous weigh ins and it would be fair for both fighters.

 

so only way this is a fair fight is if floyd drains down? yeah i concede. no fighter drained to make the weight no fight. and i keep repeating welterweight because that is the weight class that the two fighters campaign at. forget it why not just let manny load his gloves and use steroids as well. would that make it even enough if they fought. my point its almost as bad. a fighter can be hurt almost as bad by draining down to what their bodies cant handle or for hope that they cat handle it. to weaken a fighter is not doing something for legacy. its doing something to gain an unfair advantage in the ring. some would call this cheating others would call this making yourself the greatest fighter in recent history

 

floyd was 146 in his last fight. 145 would not drain him. it would just limit his rehydration. so is it fair to pac for floyd to baloon up after the fight just like what he did against jmm? and please stop comparing it to using steroids and using plasters. you are overacting already.

 

145 catchweight is fine since.

why should pbf fans be angry. lets us refresh our memories.

1. quite a numer of pbf fans insist that he is a very small welterweight in a way justifying his refusal to fight legit welters like cotto, mosley and margo.

2. he agreed to fight marquez at a catchweight. the pac cotto fight was also at a catchweight.

3. if pbf pulls another jmm trick on him. what will prevent pbf from say coming in at 148. remember he came in 2 lbs over the weight limit and basically put jmm in a corner.

true, he paid a fine but the advantage he gained on fight night.

 

Not many people said his size was the reason he shouldn't have fought those guys

Yeah but Marquez was coming up two weight classes, and Floyd couldn't make the catchweight. The Pac/Cotto fight proved that Pac could handle himself a that weight. He's had enough experience at or near the WW limit. Therefore, a catchweight is unneccesary.

The rules. Remember, the WW limit is 147 lbs. If Floyd cam in over that weight, he would be forced to try to lose the weight.

 

As a Pac fan and as a definite NON-FAN of Floyd, this fight should NOT and WILL NOT be made at a catchweight.


We had one last night and it made **** all difference to the outcome.

It merely provides a ready-made excuse for the sore losers.

147 or forget it.

 

Wow...just wow...look at all these PBF nuthuggers adamant that Pac vs PBF should be at WW and not at a catchweight.

The irony is suffocating :-(

Are you guys totally incapable of seeing things objectively and rationally?

PBF just made a career featherweight come up to WW and then completely disregarded the agreed catchweight of 144lbs by weighing in 2lbs over at 146lbs.

Manny just fought at a career-high weight of 144lbs.

Manny and Roach know best - if 145lbs is best for Manny, then @ 145lbs it should be.

 

make it happen!

 

how is it nuthugging to say a welterweight fight should be fought at welterweight limits 147?.. seems like you're nuthugging , when you say "WHATS BEST FOR MANNY"... there are 2 fighters in the ring you know, its not the manny pacaquio show.. i think its best for the fight in general to not have a catchweight that way there is no excuses

 

Make this fight happen! On a business and historical sense no other fight inside this decade makes more sense.

 

Right, so how does your "there are 2 fighters in the ring you know" logic fit with PBFs history of making Hatton come up to 147 and JMM come up to 145 while he himself came in at whatever weight he wanted to?

Hatton was the linear 140lb champ and had looked shocking at 147lbs, yet PBF wanted him at WW :think

JMM had only fought above 130lbs 4 times in his whole career, yet PBF wanted him at WW :think

Anyone capable of reading between the lines would realise 147 is obviously PBF's preferred weight.

Meanwhile, Manny only just fought at a career-high weight of 144lbs yesterday and the PBF nuthuggers are calling for a fight at WW, because, in their extremely educated opinions, Manny looked so comfortable at 144 yesterday that he should have moved up to 147 quite easily by the time a possible fight between he and PBF happens :roll:

 

no. im just basing it on the fact everything thinks cotto is some hard puncher which he isn't, read any of the countless other threads about how manny pacaquio has a chin of iron, how he is top p4p all time etc etc. shouldn't be a problem fighting in WW against floyd now should it? its going to be at 147. manny said his walking around weigh is low 150s in an interview yesterday. so i don't see the problem. no nut hugging i just don't like catchweights