A short version of why I believe Pacquiao would beat Mayweather

I actually have thought about these same things, and in a Pacquiao victory.. These would be all the logical aspects going for Manny Pac. no insults from me

 

Some good points actually. But I think Floyd does have power to hurt Manny. Especially if he catches him with one of those short left hooks while Manny is coming in. I personally dont think anyone can unhook his defensive system, it really is that good. I think Floyd raises his game depending on the opponent. Manny will bring the best out of Mayweather...... unfortunately for Manny.

 

Don't be fooled in to thinking it was Oscar that gassed it and let Floyd off.

One of the best qualities about Floyd is his ability to adapt and figure out his opponents during a fight (as demonstrated against Judah). He'll have a plan A, plan B, plan C......going all the way to plan Z. I think this was more the case against Oscar as oppose to him gassing it. Floyd I think switched up, and not allowed Oscar to repeat the success he was having in the first half of the fight.

 

the 'relentless buzzsaw' will slow down when Floyd timing/speed connects, and Pac has never faced anybody with half Floyd's reflexes

 

Pac I believe has more stamina than Floyd also, when Cotto was ready to quit in the 9th round Pac could have gone another 12, it's amazing.

 

The entire fight comes down to a balancing act of how much Mayweather can negate Pacquiao's work rate with his superior defense, versus how many more punches Manny can throw in the face of the spoiling, difficult to hit Mayweather.

For many of the reasons the OP stated i favour Manny in a very close fight. I think Mayweather is too reserved to beat someone with the offensive precision and activity of Manny. Yes he is going to tag and time Manny coming in here and there, but what happens after he hits Manny with a clean shot, and Manny is standing in front of him unloading multiple punches. Floyd will shell up and showoff his defensive prowess, but Pacquiao will land here and there in his flurries, and the judges will like his activity.

 

there are so many holes in you're argument
lets start with
1. "mayweather cant hurt pacquiao", how you know? mayweather will hit pac more then cotto, hatton and dlh put together. you have to understand that pbf is not a puncher then a guy like dlh or cotto but he more ACCURATE. you get hit clean enough times, you going to get hurt.

2. "Pac's speed will unhinge mayweather's defense" well you can think this. pac will test floyd's defense bit floyd will test pac's offense as well. who has pac fought who as as fast as mayweather. so your argument can go both ways. mayweather is a much more difficult target then barerra, morales, marquez, hatton, dlh and cotto. and if you know boxing, you know great timing can beat great speed. mayweather has great timing. thats why he a great counterpuncher.

3. "Manny will outwork mayweather over 12 rds." Of course pac is a much busier fighter. not doubt about that. but you think pac can just sit there and throw punches at mayweather without getting hit in return. pacquaio is going to get hit with more counter punches then he as ever been hit with. when cotto was retrreating, pac looked fusrtated was getting hit as he was coming at cotto. now, you going to have a faster fighter in mayweatehr moving around waiting for opportunites when pac startes to let his hands go. and pac has to throw more then he normaly does because mayweather is such a diffcult target. this is going to be a tall task for pac.

in short you can make all the cases for pac to beat mayweather but you can make just as and if not more cases for mayweather to win because stylistically, mayweather has the advantage.

 

That was because Cotto had basically quit. He did not need to spend that much more energy to defeat Cotto.

Cotto exposed one thing about Pac. The jab is the way to go against him. Pacman was having big problems with Cotto's jab. However Cotto wasn't discipline enough to stick with it. But he was snapping Pac's head back, he bruised his face up pretty good.

 

cotto was doing well until he stop firing the jab and cotto was hurt pretty abd after the second kd yet pac had problems finishing him of when cotto started to move away and retreat. it took the ref to stop all the way in the final rd.if cotto's movement was frustrating him, imagine how it going to be when mayweather, who is superior defensivley to cotto in every which way, is moving around the ring.

 

Excellent post. I won't even go into the reach and Pac's lack of a jab. PBF has the stylistic advantage here whether his fans want to admit it or not is irrelevant.

 

Cottos jab did work very good at first but thenpacman showed that he once again improved! One of the keys was the right hook from pacman!
I have never seen him use it so much like in the cotto fight!
I am not even a fan of pacman but you just got to give him respect!
Floyd pussyweather watch out!

 

Great post. These last two points are especially valid. Floyd is not as elusive or well-rounded as he was at SFW; he's turned into a running and shoulder-rolling machine, and Pacquiao will make him pay.

 

Mayweather's straight right from the high guard will be brutal. Pac will have a great fight at medium range. But too far away or too close mayweather will dominate i think. Pac doesn't really throw any rounded shots. Yea he hits you from angles but most of his punches are straight on so he has trouble near the clinch from what i've seen no knocks to him on it as it is fun as hell to watch. At the distance he can't quite reach floyd and while mayweather doesn't really jab every fight that much when he has it has worked out well.

As far as Floyd not being able to hurt him? Well we shall see how Pac deals with being countered in between a shot or two. Noone thought PBF could hurt DLH either probably not even floyd, but he buckled him twice in the fight with a single shot. But pac is not Hoya so we shall see what happens i guess.

And for the last point I have is that Floyd is as big a monster in the gym as Pac is. I don't see either tiring due to overactivity or anything.

 

and how about mayweather's jab. cotto dominated the first rd with his jab but he didnt do consistently. part of that has to do with the fact that he cpunt deal with pacs speed. but floyd has a better jab then cotto. its faster and accurate. its not impossible for pac to win because he is a great fighter but alot of you people need to realize that floyd, hate him or love him is a great fighter, is a great fighter too. and i always envisioned a fighter signifiatnly bigger then mayweather to beat. only size can offset mayweather skillset, a guy like paul williams and maybe mosley.