Standing toe to toe with George Foreman and trading blows .....

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  1. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Bowe feasted upon smaller men and non-punchers (Holy). Due to his open and porous defense, Lewis would be terrible for him, and so would Foreman especially if he was going to brawl and go toe to toe. What have been disaster.
     
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    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Yes, Shavers doesn't go a round with Quarry but can go toe to toe with Foreman. You're nuts.
     
  3. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Liston, but not Shavers. Shavers was outslugged by Lyle, who in term was outslugged by... yeah, you guess it. Shavers had sick power but lacked in technique and chin.

    The fact that even Quarry went toe-to-toe with Shavers and won, shows that too much onus is put on power. Technique and a cool head is just as important, as is of course chin. That's the reason I can see Bowe beating Foreman, just as Quarry beat Shavers. Foreman's chin and resiliance would make sure it wouldn't be a 1 rd KO, and with his power he has of course always the chance of putting Bowe to sleep, but in the end I think Bowe's superior skill would make the difference more times than not.
     
  4. bigG

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    in all of my fantasy match ups, big daddy and foreman hadnt ever cropped up...and it would be a fascinating brawl....with young george anyhow..and, yup..id give bowe a chance..he was a big guy with big power and better in fighting ability than gorge..if he could withstand georges brutal raw, uncultured clubbing i could see him doing an ali and stopping an exhausted foreman late...really...well, one time out of four or so!!!...old foreman i think is a worse match up for bowe....more defensively minded, bigger, heavier but just as heavy handed..old george would go in with the destructive urge of the young version and the roles may be reversed with an old geezer maybe stopping a tiring bowe in the late rounds..well, one time out of four ...haha!!!!!
     
  5. lefthook89

    lefthook89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    dude chill out, its hard to think of many heavyweights that can trade with foreman, shavers comes to mind because i think his power is equal to foremans. not saying he would win of course, its pure speculation.
     
  6. round15

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    Uh, Ali didn't go toe-to-toe with George.

    He'd get his butt knocked out if he did. He covered up, leaned on the ropes and let Foreman blast away at his arms and shoulders. There were moments in the fight where Ali traded shots with George, but he NEVER stood toe-to-toe. Anyhow Foreman lands the same clean uppercut shot like he did against Frazier or a straight right like he did against Norton, Ali likely wouldn't be standing, but I wouldn't bet on him quitting.

    Nobody goes toe-to-toe with George, unless the speed factor dominates the exchanges. Young George was quicker than most give him credit for and I'd say the only other heayweight that could stand and trade with George is maybe Liston.
     
  7. round15

    round15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Shavers' right hand is slightly more powerful than George's but Foreman's left hand shots are much stronger than Shavers' left hand shots.

    Shavers could trade with Foreman but unless he fights at a smart pace, with deliberate shots, he'll lose a punch for punch battle against George. I'd predict a lot of knockdowns, but Shavers didn't pay attention to conditioning until later in his career. Same goes with Foreman, because he never had the vast quantity of stamina usually attributed to Marciano and Frazier.
     
  8. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I remember Holyfield heading to the deck from that heavy hitter James "Lightsout" Toney.
     
  9. PetethePrince

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    It's terrible speculation.
     
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    Bowe-Foreman would be a classic, a fight that the armchair fans would absolutely love. They'd be turned into hardcore fans
     
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    holy was not he same fighter by then..he took helacious blows from..well, just about everyone he fought up till toney..just got old all of a sudden...
     
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    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Shavers lost a lot of slugfests, he had no defense, no stamina, poor chin. See Williams, Clarke, Stander fights-even the Ellis one. He is one guy who is not beating George. Bowe might do it-he had more speed which is a great asset when going toe-to toe.
     
  13. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Guys like Tyson or Louis would stand in the pocket and constantly beat Foreman to the punch while being in range. Their speed and combination could rip him up due to his poor defence. Louis stood toe to toe with Max Baer and had huge success beating him to the punch and countering him from close range, using Max's aggression against him he could do the same against George.
     
  14. Genesis

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    Bowe could never KO George. He would never KO 40+ George.

    Bowe was rocked and dropped by holyfield in fight 3 when Evander just went for broke after looked shot to pieces the round before. Imagine if Foreman landed that left hook and not Evander.

    Even Herbie Hide hurt Bowe.
     
  15. janitor

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    A fair few fighters could have traded with Foreman and not all are the usual suspects.