aS S_S said, Pac just stopped when under assault, and when he did trade with Cotto (to great effect) he was trading with a slower, more predictable beast than Pryor was. Pryor is also a smaller target, can shift up and box, and may find staying at mid-range/outside easier with Pac then Arguello due to Pavs deficient height/reach compared to Alexis, however Pacs foot/hand may negate this. For me, Pryor (whilst knockdownable) was never seriously in distress and seed invulnerable. Tough as Hell and crazy, he would engage in one if the greatest fights we've ever seen, his equal punch output to Pac and fluid combinations through Pacs guard when he stops to cover up would eventually puncture his defence: Pryor gets of the floor in round one to cut Pac in the mid-rounds and stop him late. I'm still not convinced Pac is only vulnerable to Hearns/Robinson/Leonard at Welter. I feel there are some at 140 (Ortiz) including Pryor who would give him a run for his money. Pryor I think would beat him. I'd favour Pac to swarm all over Tszyu but wouldn't expect Pac to take his right-hand if it lande on him. Even at these weights I see Pac as a very tough and durable guy, but he CAN be broken down. I wouldn't favour him against decent punchers up at these weights unless e hold stylistic advantages. How bad was Pryor against southpaws???? As a testament to his chin, drug addled, past prime and above his best weight, it took (what appears to me) a headbutt to dehabilitate The Cincinatti Hawk.
**** knows how many typos there are in the above post. iPhone. Stoned. Can't be bothered. Hope you can fathom. :good
The cheat that is Aaron Pryor should not even be talked about in mythical matchups with other greats. Without his cheating antics, Arguello would have outlasted his sorry ass, and so too would Manny Pacquiao!!!!:fire:fire:fire:fire:fire
Both could have stylistic problems with the other.... - On the one hand Pryor has the chin to stand up to Pac, and he's high punch output as well as his smothering techniques wouldn't allow Pac to find that perfect range that he seems to for his power punches. - The other argument (as symplistic as it may be), is how long can someone who gets hit as much as Pryor stand up to the fantastic attacking arsenal of Manny? The problems that many have listed in prior posts could be negated by 3/4 cracking shots early in the fight. Without any certainty I'd pick Pac, probably by decision but I don't think a KO is out of the question.
Divac, it was never proven that Pryor was a cheat. Thankgod Alexis wasn't as cynical as you were, otherwise he would indeed have many critics.
a good prediction like most of times. pac overwhelms pryor en route for a TKO. even for that arguello pryor still needed that wonder bottle and more than 12 rounds.
Luis Resto the fighter that had the paddings taken off his gloves by Panama Lewis, has since come clean in an HBO documentary stating that Panama gave him and other fighters liquid concoctions that had an immediate effect in opening up his lungs and making him breath more freely during fights.......(no doubt thats what was in the black bottle during Pryor's fight with Arguello) .....and add to that, Emmanuel Steward in an interview also stated that when Pryor came to him to be trained for the Alexis Arguello rematch, he was worried and confided in him that Panama did some shady illegal things to give him an advantage. There was good reason to suspect that Pryor was a cheat even before Resto came clean and Emmanuel spilled the beans......... .....this however was an elephant that squashed the camels back. There is no doubt about it, Aaron Pryor is a damn cheat!
Like I said, it has never been proven. It's all speculation. Don't come back with your usual essay, you don't have any proof so that's the end of the matter as far as I'm concerned.
It has never been proven in a court of Law that OJ Simpson killed is wife either, but we damn well know he did it! If you dont know the story behind the black bottle controvery, the scumbag that is Panama Lewis and his relationship with Aaron Pryor......then dont act like you're an authority on the matter. Aaron Pryor is a ****ing cheat and thats all there is to that!
I watched the Luis Resto documentary like everyone else, and I've seen the Arguello vs Pryor I fight many more times than I care to remember, in addition to the Legendary Nights segment. I know everything that happened, and we still yet to have proof that Pryor used illegal substances, he made easy work of Arguello in the return bout, either way.
So you're simply going to ignore what Emmanuel Steward said in this link..... http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=20737&more=1 Emmanuel Steward......"Another one was the second fight with Alexis Arguello and Arron Pryor, when Pryor asked me to train him. He was afraid going into the rematch with Arguello because Panama Lewis had been arrested and put in jail at the time, and he was the guy who trained him for the first fight, and even though he never admitted it in so many words, he told me that they were basically getting by with some kind of things that were not legal." ......and yeah ok.....everything Luis Resto said about Panama Lewis was just a figment of his ****ing imagination....... ......what Panama was saying in that documentary is as credible as ****ing can be....... We should just ignore what Emmanuel said, and the HBO documentary that gave us real insight into the happenings...... ......after all, nothing was proven in a court of Law, Pryor was'nt convicted of anything....he must be innocent!!!:good I'm through with you Addie!:barf:nut
Divac as dramatic as ever. I have my suspicions about whether or not Pryor was using illegal substances, but like I keep reiterating, there is no proof. Luis Resto is admitting his own guilt, he can't speak for Pryor. Likewise, Pryor beat Alexis easier in the rematch than he did first time out. I'm surely not going to condemn one fighters entire career based on something Emmanuel Stewart thinks he heard.