The trouble in Pacquiao's camp...

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  1. ballyrhy86

    ballyrhy86 New Member Full Member

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    was it all bull****?

    Obviously the weather disruptions were real, but besides that, was there really a bust-up between Ariza and Koncz? I don't remember Koncz having a mark on him in the 24/7 even though you'd think Ariza would be capable of busting him up pretty bad with even one punch.

    Also do you think Pacquiao's camp exaggerated the extent of the distractions he faced?

    It's all academic really, after seeing the fight I don't think Cotto had a chance in any case. But I wonder are they that into playing mind games or was it genuine?
     
    ballyrhy86, Nov 17, 2009
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  2. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Before every Pacquiao fight there is a lot of controversy regarding distractions. There are always issues with Roach not being able to reach Pacquiao at some point, etc.. Is it real? Maybe. Does it bother Pacquiao? It never seems to.

    Expect the same sort of thing when Pacquiao fights Mayweather.
     
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  3. evalistinho

    evalistinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think it is real its just that Manny when it comes down to it no matter what will come in 100% prepared. like the post above expect a rowdy camp for the Mayweather fight as well.
     
    evalistinho, Nov 17, 2009
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  4. AbbeyFN

    AbbeyFN Active Member Full Member

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    Hype sells fights.
     
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  5. Ringnut

    Ringnut Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think all of the distractions were real but they did not really affect Pac as Roach himself has said multiple times before the fight. His only real complaint was the few days they spent in Manila...
     
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  6. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Pac seems to not give a **** about anything. Maybe cause no matter whats going on around him he's been through so much worse.
     
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  7. DeanoFlash

    DeanoFlash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    brush ups between ur advisor and ur trainer have nothing to do with your preparation as a fighter. Now lets say you injure your rib, have your trainer and uncle arrested and out of most of your camp, become a prime suspect for a shooting you didn't commit, and then run into issues with the IRS before a fight.....that could possibly affect preparation right? :rofl:rofl:rofl who cares right?
     
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  8. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    why are you saying who cares when everyone was talking about that before PBF vs JMM

    double standard

    I guess filming a movie, typhoons, 13 hours of jet lag, and people dying around your gym... that couldn't possibly affect your preperations right? :rofl :rofl Who cares right?
     
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  9. DeanoFlash

    DeanoFlash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I said who cares referring to fighter B's situation......books are good.
     
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  10. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    yea no ****. thats what I was referring to. Books are good but I guess you need to brush up on your reading comprehension first.
     
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  11. ballyrhy86

    ballyrhy86 New Member Full Member

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    I'm not saying they were the worst distractions in the world, just asking whether people think they were genuine or just purely manufactured? Floyd and his family do have some issues alright!!
     
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  12. DeanoFlash

    DeanoFlash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    well then where's the double standard??? lmao let me stop....Logic and ESB simply don't go together
     
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  13. DeanoFlash

    DeanoFlash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    oh naw man, that was a reply to you I was just dropping some thoughts. but yeah like some of the others said drama isn't anything unusual to a Pac training camp.
     
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  14. ballyrhy86

    ballyrhy86 New Member Full Member

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    What kinda money is Koncz on as a matter of interest? Is it a percentage or what?

    His role seems confined to being belittled by Ariza and Roach and sitting watching Manny training while trying to hide a hard-on. From what little I've read on him he seems to be just a ****-up who has had shady dealings with many fighters in the past:

    http://www.***********.com/?m=show&id=21242

    http://globalnation.inquirer.net/ce...814-220265/Filipino-boxer-is-missing-in-Vegas

    How is this **** involved with any elite fighter!?
     
    ballyrhy86, Nov 17, 2009
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  15. h2hkiller

    h2hkiller Guest

    Koncz is Arum's eyes and ears in Pacman's camp, IMO. As long as Arum's in the picture, Koncz is not going away. I'm sure Roach and Ariza knows this so they just try to put up with him.
     
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