Hearns fought the wrong fight

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  1. moneymatt

    moneymatt Active Member Full Member

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    punched himself out in the hagler fight. should have been a rematch.
     
  2. $drew$marshall

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    tell us something we don't know
     
  3. moneymatt

    moneymatt Active Member Full Member

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    :huh this is earth-shattering knowledge that i have bestowed upon you. be grateful and hopeful that i post here frequently and consistently
     
  4. Thread Stealer

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    Hagler was all over him. Hearns tried to box and keep the fight at range midway through the round, although he was loading up with the right, and had some success. But Hagler cut him off and got him on the ropes. By the time the round ended, Hearns's legs did a dance, and were rubbery for the rest of the fight (although Steward maintains it was like that from the dressing room).

    I also doubt Hearns and Steward expected Hagler to come out that aggressive and so balls-to-the-wall rather than more deliberate.
     
  5. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Another factor was that he ****ed up his right hand which was his big bomb early on too.
     
  6. homebrand

    homebrand Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hearns broke his hand on Hagler's bone head in round 1. this meant he couldn't throw his magic right for the rest of the fight.

    No broken hand, and Hearns would have made more of a fight of it.

    Thing is though: it doesn't matter how many times they fought, Hagler's chin is made of granite. Hearn's chin is not an ATG chin.
     
  7. ramalinga

    ramalinga Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And what does it tell us that in a collision of Hearns' right hand and Hagler's head, Tommy's hand took second place? Perhaps that Tommy doesn't have a chance in this matchup?

    Hagler just had the perfect package stylistically for Hearns and this would be true if they fight ten times. The only chance Hearns would have is a stoppage on cuts.
     
  8. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    No disputing that Hagler had an ATG chin, but if Hearns hadn't broke that right hand then anything could have happened.. the leverage and sheer power he got on that punch was frightening.
     
  9. Saltzy

    Saltzy Bam-O Full Member

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    His punch landed wrong and it broke his hand that **** happens all the time. I'd bet anything that Hearns could of done ALOT better in a rematch.
     
  10. GDG

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    The fight was over as soon as Hearns broke his hand. In contrast to most people, I think Hearns had a chance of beating him had that not happened. There is no doubt in my mind that Hearns hurt Hagler in the 1st round, more than Hagler has ever been hurt by any other guy.

    Conventional wisdom dictates that Hagler's power + Hearns chin = KO victory for Hagler.....I don't think it's that simple. The Hearns that fought Hagler that night had the power to KO any MW in history IMO. I'm not saying he would have, but I don't think it's as cut and dry as people think.

    Hearns was such a warrior there's no way he was ever going to not engage with Hagler.

    I hear so much about how strong today's WW division is, but can you imagine What Hearns would have done to these guys???
     
  11. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Hearns fought Hagler? News to me.
     
  12. homebrand

    homebrand Well-Known Member Full Member

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    possibly, but don't forget it was Hearns's first ever fight at middleweight.

    He was the junior middleweight champion.
     
  13. Thread Stealer

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    He had one fight at middleweight before, and another one slightly over the JMW limit. There was questions about his power being diminished at one point, because of how often he injured his right hand. Then he nearly killed Duran with his right.

    After Hagler, he showed his knockout power at 160, as he took out Shuler so quickly. Gil Clancy said right away "we know now that Hearns can knock guys out at middleweight as well".
     
  14. ramalinga

    ramalinga Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Disagree. Hearns was probably the hardest puncher ever at 147 - 154, but his power wasn't wuite the same at higher weights. Hagler was stunned in the first round, but hurt? He kept attacking and basically turned the fight around in the second half of the first round.

    Hagler had the tools to enforce his gameplan and Hearns, being the warrios that he was, would have always traded with him. Hearns would have a chance if he could turn the fight into a boxing match, using his reach but that's just not likley to happen.
     
  15. GDG

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    I agree he turned the fight around, but would he be able to have done that if Hearns could've kept banging him with that right hand?? Who knows??

    I'm not saying Tommy would've won had his right hand not have broken, as I said I just don't believe it's as cut and dry as some make out.

    And personally I though his power carried up just fine. Did he have the devestating KO like the ones he did over Cuevas and Duran, maybe not. But he had 4 ko's in his 5 fights after rocking Hagler, and his power seemed fine in his fight with Barkley before being stopped.