what do you guys study?

I am a Judo blue belt. Also doing a bit of boxing.

 

where you got the blackbelt from is much mre important. The vast majority of schools in america it is two classes a week @ 45 mins. two-three years later you have a blackbelt. tada. Most arent even certified by the world headquarters

I'm 4th dan kukkiwon (the kodokan of taekwondo) and I have trained at the world headquarters. I am far more knowledgeable, experienced, and senior than him.

also, he is not certified by the kukkiown. He probably got a certificate from kinkos copies. Korean instructors who don't teach their students properly often do this.

go here, clikc check for poom/dan, enter his information and see if anything comes up.

http://kukkiwon.or.kr/english/index.jsp

American
Joe(or jospeh) Rogan
670811 (YYMMDD)

It is NOT the US OPEN.

If you familiar with taekwondo, this would not even be a discussion. Let me try to explain this.

IOC (international olympic comittie) --> WTF (world taekwondo federation) ---> USAT (USA taekwondo) ----> US OPEN (WTF sanctioned internationl tournament)

this is how the progression of the actual US open is. He DID NOT fight at the actual us open. He fought at some small shitty local-tournament called 'us open' to make it sound hardcore which are all over the damn place. I could go into some huge thing about how he never won a USAT (USTU, united states taekwondo union, in his time) event whether it be state, regional, or national.

I know it was not THE us open because you cannot rise up and fight different weight divisions in any WTF/USAT/olympic event. The weight divisions are put in for saftey, you weigh in that day to qualify for your division. They do that moving up **** when it is some local friendship tournament. There is not and never has been a 'grand chamion' of the US open.

you can read how the results look, here

http://assets.teamusa.org/assets/do...filename/9678/2009_U.S._Open_Results_3-17.pdf

the weight divisions look like this:

fin
fly
bantam
feather
light
welter
light-middle
middle
light-heavy
heavy

find me the year he 'won' in, I probably know people who were at the tournament that year and I can probably find the catual results.

As for the '

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' tournament if anyone could find record or the website of the tournament, because that is not the same massechusettes state tournament which would qualify you for nationals. BULL ****.

also, his instructor Mr. J. H. Kim

"Mr. Kim carries the tradition set by some of the most recognized Taekwon-do masters in the world. He was especially fortunate to receive personal teachings from General Choi, Hong Hi"

http://www.tkd-newton.com/about_jhk.html

yes general choi hong hi, the former south korean general and northern communist conspirator who fled for his life and defected to N. korea to found the much smaller, non-olympic, (and currently fractured) ITF taekwondo.

I know this doesn't make much sense to you but his instructor is/was a quack, and the tournaments he fought at were bull**** friend tournaments with misleading names.

 

Thats pretty much the opposite of how most 'MMA guys' think of him.

 

also, he did not make his living off taekwondo at age 15.


1. could you find me where he said that? I need it for another reason
2. could you pls fin your 'joe rogan is a twat' thread, its where i posted all this sht before.

damn search feature is off, im looking now.

edit, found it. Last post in your thread. My former pst on joe rogan:

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I took Aikido and have a blackbelt under Tenshin Aikido (James Berkley)..google that ****.
I did Judo as well, but never got far since I moved. Trained under the tutullege of Shiro Oishi.

My love is Kali. i studied Sayoc Kali for 10 ****ing years. Chris Sayoc is the best most innovative Kali practicioner in the west IMHO

But in class we did all kinds of ****, JJ, Judo, Kendo, MT under Bill Schetinno (who was a pit bull)

BTW I also worked out with Steven Schiandra of Martial Arts Studio. THe mas a a great wrestler

 

I've boxed on and off for years, but finally found a really good coach a couple of years ago at a JKD gym but had to leave that gym because I moved. I'm going to start up at another boxing/kickboxing gym and will join the college judo club where my wife just started school. I've always wanted to do judo and I'm really excited to start.

 

you need to calm down man, sounds like you're taking it a lot more personally than you should. what he took as a kid has no bearing on your life, no reason to blow it so out of proportion.

 

i took karate for 5.5 years and earned a black belt, did boxing for a little over a year, but ran out of money and led too busy of a life to have room for it. nothing at the moment but am looking into aikido or judo because i've always had an interest in those arts. possibly bjj if i can find a decent school in the area.

 

his ignorant uninformed publicly broadcast opinions and lies about my lifestyle effect me in a vastly negative way both financially and socially.

this isn't personal?

 

you've never met him, he's never talked negatively of you, your family, or anyone you know for that matter. people like to brag and embellish, that doesn't mean you should take what they say personally. i can guarantee you that anything joe has said about tkd has no impact on your school or the opinions of anyone one in it. i can also guarantee that anyone who chooses to badmouth tkd for any reason don't have their opinions because of him. so with that in mind, no it's not personal. unless he's spoken to you directly or insulted you(not your art) in some way, i think you could probably calm down a little bit.

people talk negatively about karate, and i'll defend the art so i know where you're coming from. but if someone like gsp made false claims about his history with karate i wouldn't take it personally in any way. what someone chooses to say has no effect on my life until it's actually about me.

 

You don't think an announcer on one of the most watched television programs in the country saying 90% of taekwondo is useless acting like he is some kind of former taekwondo GRAND CHAMPION has any effect on people opinions?

This conversation was started because someone thought Taekwondo was worthless, and used Joe rogan saying it as a main point. And I have encountered people on multiple occasions who have mentioned it, I see it all over youtube and forums.

You speak of me 'taking it personally' as if I'm trying to destroy joe rogan as a person. I am not, I have only commented on his fabricated martial arts career. If I were taking it 'personaly' I would be publicly attacking the size of his genitalia or something to that extenet. It sounds like you are exaggerating my criticism.

and yes, I do know people who have met and talked to Joe rogan. See the first quote in my signature.

 

Alright, let me just clarify that i'm someone who appreciates all martial arts. each have their pros and cons. i can appreciate people who train in tkd seriously and know that they're very athletic people, it's far from worthless. i've sparred with people who practice tkd and i know that a well placed kick from them hurts just as much as any other kick you can be hit with. a few things that i can say that hold true that i'm sure you can agree with are that tkd is a very specialized art and going into a fight being well versed in kicks can be a risky venture, especially in close range. and a tkd style kick with the instep of the foot needs to be very well placed and timed to avoid the foot being broken on say a knee or elbow. i think things like this are part of what a lot of people base their negative opinions on. the misunderstand the art and see it as something that's worthless, but knowing how to kick is a very important skill to have. regardless of if it comes from tkd, karate, muay thai, savate, etc etc.

I wasn't trying to imply that your aim was to destroy him, just that there was a note of hostility in what you wrote that seemed a bit out of place. again, i want to say that i've defended my arts/arts in general enough times to see where you're coming from and why you're angry. but, having spent two years as a firefighter and seeing a lot of things i wish i wouldn't have fresh out of high school i can tell you that there are more important things to worry about in life than what someone else says.

you study taekwondo, enjoy it. teach your classes and improve every day and be happy with what you bring to tkd every day, don't worry about what someone said in the past. if someone comes to you trying to badmouth your art, let him spend a day being taught by you and see if you can change his opinion.

 

I enjoy your enthusiasm for taekowndo, and martial arts in general. I am simply discrediting Joe rogans credibility on taekwondo because of his misleading comments. I am not on some kind of life long mission to bash joe rogan.

 

yea i gotcha. your friends that've met him...did they talk to him about his claims? they should've asked why he feels a need to lie about that.

 

having said all that, i'm probably one of the few people here who won't bad mouth tkd. so if you ever care to share ideas/compare arts or talk shop feel free.