Frank Mir: "Fedor Wants No Part Of Facing Real Competition"

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  1. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    :good.
     
  2. wentz

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    Frank Mir and his entire career is **** paper.
     
  3. MattMattMatt

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    What an idiotic statement. A true martial artist would deliberately play to his opponents strengths?! Oh dear Frank...I think it's time for you to get that BJJ white belt back out again.
     
  4. Tuffnutz

    Tuffnutz ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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  5. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Look Jimmie , if i sound like an arrogant ******* ...maybe it's because...well..uh..i'm an arrogant ******* afterall. So don't try to reason me.:bart
     
  6. Dynamite Kid

    Dynamite Kid "I Must Break You" Full Member

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    All around IMO Fedor has fought better comp than any other fighter in the HW division of any organization. However Franks criticism of Fedor's opponents are IMO more regarded more towards the choices of Linland & Choi. Remember as far as common opponents go, like Fedor, Mir also fought Tim Sylvia when Tim was undefeated and Mir broke his arm in under a minute. Like Fedor, Mir also fought NOG, and he stopped him. Whether people except that win or not doesn't really matter.

    In Mir's mind (or maybe just to get people to talk) he'll downplay just a little bit to see if he can get the man's attention. Arlovski was considered a good fighter when he fought Fedor (for some reason, lost alot of credibility for having to fight a cautious fight against someone he used to train Jiu jitsu with in Werdum:huh) but wasn't considered the real deal anymore. But that's just how it is in the fight world. Not everyone is satisfied. Paticularly potential opponents.

    But IMO Mir is right about something though. The UFC is where you really make your mark. (not that Fedor hasn't made his mark, don't get me wrong) but for a guy like Fedor that's done everything and fought everyone, Mir made sense when he said "if you're the best fighter at Affliction then you're the best fighter at Affliction. If you're the best fighter at Strikeforce then you're the best fighter at Strikeforce. If you're the best in the UFC then you're the best fighter in the world". And while I consider Fedor the very best there is, I would have liked to see him in the octagon and beat everyone that works for Zuffa that claims he's "avoiding" and thinks they can kick his ass, it would have been awesome. And I'm a Mir fan saying this.
     
  7. am0kgonzo

    am0kgonzo Active Member Full Member

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    Does Mir also think, that he himself was ducking real competition, when Pride had by far the best heavyweight division in MMA?

    And shouldnt Frank, who is a "real" martial artist, try to get out of the UFC to test himself against the man that is considered number 1? I mean, Randy tried to do it and it should be a lot easier for Mir, not being the champ and what not.
     
  8. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    Fedor has proved that you can be the best in the world without fighting in the UFC, and while he was Pride champion that organisation undoubtedly had the greater pool of world-class heavyweight fighters, but I agree with you in regards that the UFC is widely recognised as the most prestigious organisation. Like you, the UFC is the organisation that I (And almost every other mma fan) would love to see Fedor fight in. He has beat several of the UFC's (Pevious) champions but not in the UFC, so as far as the UFC and the Fedor haters (Who must be one & the same!) are concerned, these victories do not mean a thing!! Let us imagine Fedor signed with the UFC tomorrow (What a thought!!), and wanted a fight asap. With Brock ill and seeminglly out of action for some time and Carwin either going in for (Or recovering from) knee surgery, just who could the UFC propose as a credible opponent? The UFC gave Cro-Cop an "Easy" first fight against Eddie Sanchez (No disrespect Ed!), but they would want their best available fighter for Fedor, so just who could they put up?? I honestly do not think that the UFC could not propose a credible opponent for Fedor!!
    P.S I'm with you on the Lindland & Choi match-ups. He really should not have taken such fights!!!
     
  9. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    I think Lesnar beat him stupid.
     
  10. Sloth

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    Mir beat an out of shape and sick Noguiera. I think Nog should rematch and destroy mir. Then mir could relize a man like Fedor would murder him inside of the first round.
     
  11. ufoalf

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    No, it was not. It was surprising because no one knew that Nog was sick and injured. He IS past his prime but KOing past prime Nog is still a shocker, but KOing past prime, sick, injured Nog is not impressive. It's a shame the fight happened.
    There's a reason why Gonzaga pulled out because of staph. You have to take bunch anti-biotics that drain your system. There's a reason why people don't fight after they tear a meniscus because it inhibits your fighting greatly.
     
  12. jimmie

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    I know staph is a serious deal but what did you want Frank to do ? ****ing lay down ? We never heard anything about him being sick before the fight but like always when a guy loses then come the excuses. Now I do believe Nogueira you could see in his weight, his movement, his energy, recovery that it wasnt his best but **** he went through with the fight so he has noboddy to blaim. Once agian I know staph and a torn meniscus is a serious deal but find me one guy who goes into any fight with no problems whether its injury or personal issues whatever. Frank did what he was supposed to and kicked that ass you cannot doubt that everything you are saying now makes since but dont doubt that. Only thing we can hope for is a rematch which who knows with Lesnar out might just happen if they can win there upcoming fights.
     
  13. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nogueira did not say anything about the injury, rather it "leaked" then he started speaking and explaining his terrible performance. Excuses usually come during post fight conference, while his excuses came after rumors started spreading around and what not. That's not an excuse.

    I could find you a plenty of guys who don't go into a fight with 20 day fresh torn meniscus and a 20 days after recovery from 7 days of hospital. He went into a fight with about 18 days of LIGHT training while also recovering. While the last month is usually the most crucial for preparation for the fight and has to be down to a science.
    The "bumps" and bruises you're talking about are very minor pains and aches, they are not things that will put a verdict on your fight unlike staph+torn meniscus. They are NOT things that put you out of serious training.


    Frank is out of the picture in this case. He did what he was supposed to. There's no one to blame but at the same time don't start talking crap all of sudden thinking you're bad **** cause you beat a legend who was next best thing to wheel chair at the time of the fight. That win is not all great on Franks resume even though on paper it looks impressive.
     
  14. zarman

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    rogers would kill mir, enough said
     
  15. Top Dog

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    I dont know why folk big up Fedor as much, he is always in **** poor condition, looks like a pub fighter